Satans_Husband Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The ludicrous premise of the the third one is the idea that a cartoon character would be able to stand for election. It's so beyond the realms of possibility that it makes the entire story a nonsense from the off. The one attempt at getting over this, with the single statement of, "Do you think Screaming Lord Sutch was his real name?", was completely feeble. It was incredibly similar to the Prime Minister and the pig one that opened the first three episodes for its lack of even remote possibility. One of Black Mirror's strengths is the disturbing thought that we're not too far away from the things suggested becoming reality. These two episodes would be more suited to a series of the Comic Strip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 A guy dressed as a penguin stood for election somewhere last time around and got more votes than the Lib Dem candidate. Also most of the episode was a statement against social media, taken to the extreme to prove it's point. Also do you have no imagination? Were you raging at the first episode of this series, which features something that will never happen because it's impossible? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullywee Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) The ludicrous premise of the the third one is the idea that a cartoon character would be able to stand for election. It's so beyond the realms of possibility that it makes the entire story a nonsense from the off. The one attempt at getting over this, with the single statement of, "Do you think Screaming Lord Sutch was his real name?", was completely feeble. It was incredibly similar to the Prime Minister and the pig one that opened the first three episodes for its lack of even remote possibility. One of Black Mirror's strengths is the disturbing thought that we're not too far away from the things suggested becoming reality. These two episodes would be more suited to a series of the Comic Strip. That is one of my favourite episodes of Black Mirror. It's not necessarily the plausibility that makes this series so good, it's the grim reflection of our society that it portrays. In that episode you have the Prime minister fucking a pig and it being broadcast across all channels and everyone is watching it, with people even congregating so that they can watch it together. We wouldn't sit round and watch bestiality as a hobby, but when it's a successful man with a considerable amount of power that's being forced into committing such a demoralising and demonising act then it becomes something of a circus. The point was that if we didn't have this attitude of wanting to witness the successful and powerful fail, then he wouldn't have had to f**k the pig, the princess would have been found before it even got as far as the broadcast starting. If such an scenario were to occur, there is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of the population would, at least initially, revel in the opportunity to see it, and that is the deeply unsettling reality. Edited February 28, 2013 by bullywee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The ludicrous premise of the the third one is the idea that a cartoon character would be able to stand for election. It's so beyond the realms of possibility that it makes the entire story a nonsense from the off. The one attempt at getting over this, with the single statement of, "Do you think Screaming Lord Sutch was his real name?", was completely feeble. It was incredibly similar to the Prime Minister and the pig one that opened the first three episodes for its lack of even remote possibility. One of Black Mirror's strengths is the disturbing thought that we're not too far away from the things suggested becoming reality. These two episodes would be more suited to a series of the Comic Strip. It's not that stupid, Hartlepool FC's mascot stood in a local council election, and won. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1965569.stm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans_Husband Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 A guy dressed as a penguin stood for election somewhere last time around and got more votes than the Lib Dem candidate. Also most of the episode was a statement against social media, taken to the extreme to prove it's point. Also do you have no imagination? Were you raging at the first episode of this series, which features something that will never happen because it's impossible? The guy may have been dressed as a penguin, but he was standing as himself. I wasn't raging at the first episode but I do think it fell away when the android part came into it. The stuff leading up to it was eerily all quite plausible. It's not that stupid, Hartlepool FC's mascot stood in a local council election, and won. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1965569.stm Just like the guy in the penguin outfit, the mascot may have been elected but it's the guy in the mascot outfit that is mayor. An animated character with a a whole bunch of people behind it will never be involved in any election. And the idea that a Paxman style interviewer would sit there while an animation swore and.... I don't want to take this too seriously. I prefer it when there are reasonable elements of reality or possible reality. If you take that as me being narrow minded then fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You cant say that on here...you'll get shot down in flames!! He understood it though. And he's also explained his reasons for not liking it. Whilst I don't agree that it was 'crap', I can understand where he was coming from, and can respect such an opinion. You, on the other hand, would struggle to explain the concept of 'Take Me Out'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Got round to watching the 3rd one yesterday. I really didn't like it at all. For me the 1st one was a good premise, but turned out a bit meh. The 2nd was outstanding, and the 3rd was shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 BUMP. Just seen an advert for a Xmas special on tue night. Looks pretty decent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 BUMP. Just seen an advert for a Xmas special on tue night. Looks pretty decent. Agreed. Is it the fella from Mad Men that's in it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Agreed. Is it the fella from Mad Men that's in it? Sure is aye, Jon Hamm/Don Draper Edited December 11, 2014 by Christophe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I know I'm looking forward to some dystopian misery in the run-up to Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I know I'm looking forward to some dystopian misery in the run-up to Christmas. I'm hoping Santa gets buggered to death by Rudolph in return for a lifetime of abuse myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 When did they get someone with Tourette's doing the 'announcing' on Channel 4? It's better than the normal folk to be fair. A bit of personality as opposed to anodyne automatons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well that first wee story was fucking sinister. I thought it was going to be that she was getting coached as well. Rather a bleak turn for the poor lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Not finding this as good as the first 3 episodes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Not sure what I think of this so far. Feels like a few idea thrown together into one thing rather than a distinct story on its own. Perhaps us being on the 5th advert break within the hour isn't helping this, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yeah shouldve waited and watched online. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 There better be some massive twist in the last twenty minutes or I'm going to be pissed off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well that was pretty obvious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 A train crash in Kirkconnel Even though it's nowhere near where the map located it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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