the jambo-rocker Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 So we're five series into a programme about a guy who becomes a drug kingpin because of a financially debilitating illness, despite having an offer for full financial support. And the complaint is someone affiliated to the Aryan Brotherhood couldn't have people murdered in jail? Really? You have to take a bit of a leap of faith with the show as a whole. One of the great strengths of the it is how gripping the show is regardless. To be fair, you could argue that case in almost every kind of 'unadapted from facts' type fiction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 So we're five series into a programme about a guy who becomes a drug kingpin because of a financially debilitating illness, despite having an offer for full financial support. And the complaint is someone affiliated to the Aryan Brotherhood couldn't have people murdered in jail? Really? We're talking to T_S_A_R here. Do we really expect anything less from him? As soon as he started talking about the purity with absolutely no idea why this was an issue, I knew there'd be bullshit upon bullshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy85 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Hope Huell's ok tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Hope Huell's ok tbh. Don't worry about Huell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Don't worry about Huell Huell.jpg Well, reasonably 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixed Donner Hoagie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Thought it was great bit glad its over 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 So we're five series into a programme about a guy who becomes a drug kingpin because of a financially debilitating illness, despite having an offer for full financial support. And the complaint is someone affiliated to the Aryan Brotherhood couldn't have people murdered in jail? Really? You have to take a bit of a leap of faith with the show as a whole. One of the great strengths of the it is how gripping the show is regardless. the complaint isn't that the aryan brotherhood could have people murdered in jail. the complaint is that walter had a problem with people in jail planing to testify against him which was quickly resolved by recently introduced character todd piping up that his uncle could organise for all of them to be murdered. it's weak plotting, it doesn't make it a bad show or not enjoyable but if people are going to shout about breaking bad being the best program ever it has to be able to stand up to criticism. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Hmmmm... I thought it was more of a "I know who your loved ones are so don't f**k about or they'll get it" Get what? Some sort of letter telling that Jesse is a bad employee? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 the complaint isn't that the aryan brotherhood could have people murdered in jail. the complaint is that walter had a problem with people in jail planing to testify against him which was quickly resolved by recently introduced character todd piping up that his uncle could organise for all of them to be murdered. it's weak plotting, it doesn't make it a bad show or not enjoyable but if people are going to shout about breaking bad being the best program ever it has to be able to stand up to criticism. In actual fact, Todd's uncle is foreshadowed a few episodes previously, when Walt, Mike and Jess discuss wasting Todd for what happened on the heist. That's not weak plotting, they introduce the concept of his shady uncle which they can then develop down the road as required. Weak plotting would be Todd piping up in the episode after Mike get's offed to say that he has an uncle who can do the job, he doesn't, so it isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 dont forget that todd isnt some random person, mike checked him out also and probably knew his background and the support todd's family could offer if needed, hence why he was kept in the business and brought further into the loop with the methylamine heist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) I'd imagine there's a direct correlation between the number of contacts you have in the international narcotics distribution biz and the likelihood of you knowing someone who can have people killed in prison. As others have said, these characters all tie into Mike's role - a cleaner / dirty work guy, who's job it is know these things. Can't imagine this type of person is too fantastical a concept IRL. There are a number of things about the show's plot, weak or otherwise, that you need to take with a pinch of salt. This just isn't one of them. Edited September 19, 2013 by SodjesSixteenIncher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 A woosh post surely hahah woosh indeed. I can't even blame alcohol last night so I'm going to go with tiredness Get what? Some sort of letter telling that Jesse is a bad employee? I was thinking telling them they won't be able to benefit from his life insurance when he is killed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 As for finest episode of TV ever, that would be The Wire's Final Grades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud131 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 When you see him in the flash forwards his hair has regrown so we are talking at least a couple of months has gone passed. I can only assume its maybe to do with his cancer being in its final stages where he knows he is dead either way and decides to and redeem himself slightly be it trying to save Jessie or his family depending how the next episode pans out. Still strange that they have all that cash and they still want Jessie to cook for them I reckon its about a year down the line as in the flash forward you see him in the diner getting his breakfast and puts the bacon into a '52'. In a couple of episodes after that its his birthday in the real time and he has bacon and eggs for breakfast and makes the bacon into a '51' and says its a family tradition or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Intrigued to see how Granite State deals with the pressure of following Ozymandias. Last week's episode, although obviously not providing a conclusion for many of the storylines, had a dramatic finale feel about it. It will be a test of the writers' skills to avoid this episode being a damp squib in comparison. I know better than to doubt them though. There is no way it will slow down at this stage, the penultimate episode, and Aaron Paul has said that the last two are even 'messier' than Ozymandias. My main predictions for tonight - Despite Walt's phone call last week, I think that his disappearance will make the DEA go after Skyler instead. I also think that the Aryan group will pay a visit to Hank and Marie's house to pick up the tape of Jesse's confession. I don't think this will end well. I won't predict exactly who, but I don't think all three of Skyler, Marie and Walt Jr will make it to the end of this episode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Toying with the possibility of watching it live at 2am with breaks and everything as opposed to on Netflix in the morning. Think I'm going to just go for it. Can't wait to see what happens. RE above post. I wouldn't mind all three of the characters you've listed not making it to the finale as they are the ones that annoy me most. As much as I try do dislike Walt I can't do it. Hope he's the sole winner and Jesse has been annoying me of late so I hope he's dealt with ruthlessly. Grassing b*****d. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Toying with the possibility of watching it live at 2am with breaks and everything as opposed to on Netflix in the morning. Think I'm going to just go for it. Can't wait to see what happens. RE above post. I wouldn't mind all three of the characters you've listed not making it to the finale as they are the ones that annoy me most. As much as I try do dislike Walt I can't do it. Hope he's the sole winner and Jesse has been annoying me of late so I hope he's dealt with ruthlessly. Grassing b*****d. I can't help but think that Jesse will be one of the few survivors at the end. As irritating as he can be, he has also acted as the 'moral conscience' at times, and I don't think Gilligan will have decided to kill him off. I've actually been toying with that idea myself. Might be fun to watch it live at least once. Edited September 23, 2013 by The Real Saints 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Actually, nah, my stream keeps freezing and I'm beginning to get tired. I'll just watch the bit before the opening credits so I can tell my grandchildren that I at least watched a bit of Breaking Bad while it aired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Got a perfect stream. Break already but 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Oooh, interesting opening sequence (before my internet froze again). Quite surprising to see that Saul's getting his identity changed as well.. ^^ Only a minor spoiler, but don't read before watching the episode. Look forward to seeing the rest of it tomorrow! Nighty night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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