peasy23 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 But according to what I read (on the beeb) it still had fuel, but both switched were turned off. That can't have happened except by human action, surely? And yes, I have no knowledge of helicopter operation at all, in case I'm being spectacularly dense. They showed a diagram on the news earlier, it has one main tank and two smaller tanks which then feed the engines. The switches that were off were for the two pumps which transfers fuel from the main tank to the two feeder tanks, but they did say it's not unusual for those switches to be turned on and off during flight. The main tank still had plenty of fuel in it but the two others were almost empty. A warning would sound when the tanks were getting low and the switches should have been flicked back on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I, along with most people know next to nothing about car engines but when i hear a passing car that has something wrong with it then along with most people i kind of know there is something wrong. When i heard the helibobter above me that night as i stood at my backdoor then straightaway i told her indoors that i thought there was something wrong with it. I joked with the missus next day that it would be strange if it was the same one that had crashed. It wasnt until months later that it turned out that it was the same one. Guess i just have to take the word of the experts that it ran out of fuel and no other cause. I don't think you have anything to worry about with regards to it being what you heard since it was a helicopter that crashed and not what you thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Did the helicopter crash because the pilot failed to make a mayday call then? It crashed because the pilot failed to react to the low fuel warnings by either landing the helicopter or by turning on the fuel pump switches. Schoolboy error IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I used to go to school. Could have been me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Sounds like it was pilot error after all.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Will the other helicopter crashes get a mention? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Harry Clarke's fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Slenderman said: Harry Clarke's fault. Doubt it would get off the ground with Harry in it tbf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Doubt it would get off the ground with Harry in it tbf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Boghead ranter said: That's Harry's piece box 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 FAI concludes accident was because of failures made by the Pilot. “Contents of the supply tanks depleted due to failure of Captain Traill to ensure at least one of the helicopter’s fuel transfer pump switches was set to on” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 And so after a long saga, the verdict is: Pilot error 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: And so after a long saga, the verdict is: Pilot error Is that what your new avatar alludes to?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cardinal Richelieu said: Is that what your new avatar alludes to?! Aye. Edited October 30, 2019 by Hedgecutter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: And so after a long saga, the verdict is: Pilot error They should bring back the death sentence for this sort of thing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 30/11/2013 at 11:05, FlyerTon said: Looks like the pilot prevented a bigger tragedy by turning off the fuel supply to the engines preventing a fire on impact. Yikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I don't really know anything about this but I can't help but think they are just blaming the dead guy cos they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Hedgecutter said: And so after a long saga, the verdict is: Pilot error I thought that was established on page 1... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Busta Nut said: I don't really know anything about this but I can't help but think they are just blaming the dead guy cos they can. There's probably something the pilot could have done in retrospect in nearly every accident to make things better, which the manufacturers always concentrate on to avoid blame. Haven't read the report and probably wouldn't understand it if I did, but I bet there's a lot more in it than pilot error. Journalists just look for a simple headline, no doubt assisted by PR releases from Airbus Helicopters to avoid reading the whole thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I do find it strange that in supposedly technologically advanced times it still relies on a human to flick a switch to transfer the fuel from one tank to another, I would have thought it would have been done automatically long ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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