Thenorthernlight Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, big al said: Yeah, of course. Was referring to the last summer and learn from it if in the same position again. Definitely not a given at the moment anyway. Think the top 5 qualify if the Scottish Cup winner has already qualified for Europe? As it stands I think we’ll be 5th. 4th at best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Merkland Red said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7696532/everton-ramsay-missing-rangers-patterson/ Ramsay is every bit as good as Patterson. I can already see Everton making us a bid of 1.8 million (or thereabouts) and suggesting thats a great offer for him and that we should be grateful. I genuinely believe we should be looking for at LEAST 5 million + add ons for Ramsay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said: I genuinely believe we should be looking for at LEAST 5 million + add ons for Ramsay. He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, Leith Green said: He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt? We don't have to sell him after 7 or 8 games though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, Leith Green said: He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt? He is Aberdeen’s best player, and has been in almost every game this season, including the 6 European games. Mistake to sell so oung though. Long Contract and let him play and develop for a couple of seasons. Only just turned 18 and already in Scotland U21s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, coprolite said: We don't have to sell him after 7 or 8 games though. Agreed, I certainly wasnt advocating that, I hope he remains in Scotland 7 minutes ago, big al said: He is Aberdeen’s best player, and has been in almost every game this season, including the 6 European games. Mistake to sell so oung though. Long Contract and let him play and develop for a couple of seasons. Only just turned 18 and already in Scotland U21s. As above, he is a good player, so I hope he stays - watched him in the last 21s game actually, played well. Its hilarious that we have so many good young fullbacks at the moment in the main and 21s team, wish we had more in the forward area ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Agreed, I certainly wasnt advocating that, I hope he remains in Scotland As above, he is a good player, so I hope he stays - watched him in the last 21s game actually, played well. Its hilarious that we have so many good young fullbacks at the moment in the main and 21s team, wish we had more in the forward area ! Aye, we don’t really do forwards for some reason. Strange, as that’s the place with all the glory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, big al said: Aye, we don’t really do forwards for some reason. Strange, as that’s the place with all the glory. Number 9’s are going out of fashion everywhere to be fair. The most talented kids want to play as a 10 these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt?Rangers reportedly turned down £8m for Patterson, who has fewer first team minutes than Ramsay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Rangers reportedly turned down £8m for Patterson, who has fewer first team minutes than Ramsay. Appreciate that Ramsay is actually playing - which is great. No sure I would use "reported bids for Rangers stars" in their pet publications as a yardstick - see Morelos for multiple examples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Ramsay is a fantastic prospect - a joy to watch going forward, and some of his deliveries are first class.He has been culpable defensively for at least a couple of goals this season, and switched off for Motherwell’s first on Saturday.He needs to play regularly and learn - whether our defence is the place to do it remains to be seen, as he will be expected to push forward a lot, which increases the risk of being exposed at the back.Didn’t Everton, Roma and Napoli apparently want Ryan Jack at this age? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Leith Green said: He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt? I don’t think it’s particularly unbelievable and there has been some pretty big transfers involving players with little first team football. Clubs will have scouts all over the place, including reserve/u18/u21 matches so it could be that Everton have been aware of Ramsay before he broke into the team and are now happy to proceed with a transfer after witnessing him slot seamlessly into the first team so it may not be based off just a few first team appearances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, tarapoa said: Ramsay is a fantastic prospect - a joy to watch going forward, and some of his deliveries are first class. He has been culpable defensively for at least a couple of goals this season, and switched off for Motherwell’s first on Saturday. He needs to play regularly and learn - whether our defence is the place to do it remains to be seen, as he will be expected to push forward a lot, which increases the risk of being exposed at the back. Didn’t Everton, Roma and Napoli apparently want Ryan Jack at this age? No that was at some point in his early twenties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: Appreciate that Ramsay is actually playing - which is great. No sure I would use "reported bids for Rangers stars" in their pet publications as a yardstick - see Morelos for multiple examples. It comes down to the age old matter of our valuation of the player vs what any potential suitors are willing to pay. Ultimately, at the moment there's absolutely nothing to suggest that Patterson is either a better player or has more potential than Ramsay. He's under contract until 2024, and Aberdeen would be well within their rights to hold out for 8 figures if they want to. Doesn't mean anyone has to pay it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leith Green said: He is a good player, but I assume this is a bit tongue in cheek? If not, you genuinely think someone will pay £5m for a player with 7 or 8 games under their belt? If reports are to be believed, The Rangers turned down 7-8 million for Patterson. Ramsay is every bit as good if not better and younger. I fully appreciate why you'd say its delusional to be seeking 5 million + for the lad but it's really not often Aberdeen produce a player of this calibre. The last one was probably Ryan Fraser nearly 10 years ago. I'd go as far as saying he's one of the best youth prospects we've had in the last 20 odd years. He's a terrific player and will only get better. IMO he's already our most valuable asset. Personally, I hope we keep him until next summer once he's had a full season under his belt and start a bidding war as I'm sure he'll attract further attention beyond just Everton. Edited September 15, 2021 by HarleyQuinn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starryfish Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 No doubting Ramsay has done well this season. He, along with the rest of the team, struggled in the home match v Qarabag and as has been pointed out he was found wanting defensively v Motherwell as well. I think a better measure of his current level will be found in early November as Aberdeen will have played all of the better teams in the country by that stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, starryfish said: No doubting Ramsay has done well this season. He, along with the rest of the team, struggled in the home match v Qarabag and as has been pointed out he was found wanting defensively v Motherwell as well. I think a better measure of his current level will be found in early November as Aberdeen will have played all of the better teams in the country by that stage. I thought Ramsay did alright in that game considering he is so young and inexperienced and the team was struggling, especially the more experienced but still young McCrorie who looked like a deer in the headlights. The round before, I thought Mckenzie was MOTM and Ramsay probably next. Over the season so far, Ramsay the main standout for me. He may need a wee rest sometimes as he’s so young, and there will be a dip in form somewhere but he has the ability, no question of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I've just watched the Marley Watkins interview on RedTV. Not an easy watch/listen. I like him as a player, but he didn't seem in the slightest interested in doing that interview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, kingjoey said: I've just watched the Marley Watkins interview on RedTV. Not an easy watch/listen. I like him as a player, but he didn't seem in the slightest interested in doing that interview. Aye. Either no interest or a bit thick. The David Bates one wasn't easy either but you got the feeling he wasn't comfortable in front of the camera. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starryfish Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Aye. Either no interest or a bit thick. The David Bates one wasn't easy either but you got the feeling he wasn't comfortable in front of the camera. Someone on the radio at the weekend made the point that Watkins wasn't the brightest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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