The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[SlipperyP]

1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said:

I'd prefer a nice comfortable 10th place finish, thank you.

You've just went FULL Dundee. Not a good look for you or your team.

[Jacksgranda]

9 minutes ago, SlipperyP said:

You've just went FULL Dundee. Not a good look for you or your team.

Getting in the practice for next season, thank you.

[kingjoey]

2 hours ago, SlipperyP said:

See post above.

Honestly, I not seen Kille play this season, but I have watched about 15 Aberdeen games (I watch with my BIL and his dad from afar, whataspping during the games). I not sure they could take any of those teams, you are so up and down.

Hopefully we get Livingston and Dundee on two of our ups.

[Game of throw-ins]

16 hours ago, highland_mechanic said:

The Mcinnes lovers in the AFC support surprisingly quiet tonight after he was tactically outclassed by Billy Dodds.......

I still think he'll probably get Killie over the line.  If he does - and assuming we're not relegated - it'll be interesting to see how Killie do next season compared to us.  He's starting with a weak squad and much less resources than Goodwin, but I don't have a huge amount of confidence we'll finish above them.

 

[Jacksgranda]

I've no axe to grind with McInnes, he did an excellent job for the Dons (one which may be appreciated better in a couple of years time) and althought he lost his way at the end by all accounts (for whatever reason) I wish him well with his future endeavours.

[highland_mechanic]

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/transfer-talk/news/liverpool-keeping-tabs-on-aberdeens-calvin-ramsay_483536.html

Clearly one of the world's top clubs showing interest is bound to turn Calvin's head?

[bennett]

On 16/04/2022 at 07:41, kingjoey said:

Do you think that Killie would get past Partick Thistle or Caley?

Killie will win the championship and as much as I'd love to see Aberdeen go down, it won't happen.  Goodwin is savvy enough to get through the next 5 games.

[Game of throw-ins]

22 minutes ago, bennett said:

Killie will win the championship and as much as I'd love to see Aberdeen go down, it won't happen.  Goodwin is savvy enough to get through the next 5 games.

I wish I was as confident.  With the cushion we have we should be safe, but Goodwin has adopted the very high risk strategy of making it clear to a number of the players we'll be depending on to keep us safe that he doesn't rate them.  This will kill confidence and motivation.  On top of that we have players who don't expect to be here next season anyway so won't be fearing the Championship no matter what happens.

A complete crash and burn where we go through the final 5 games scarcely picking up any points looks to me by no means impossible.  We could also be dependent on the same players in the play offs.

I'm not saying we'll get relegated - without going through the permutations I imagine we don't need too many more points to be safe - but I do think there's a genuine risk.  Ironically I'd be 100% sure we'd have stayed up if we hadn't sacked Glass - it's Goodwin's bull in a china shop act that's put us in danger.

 

[big al]

6 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

I wish I was as confident.  With the cushion we have we should be safe, but Goodwin has adopted the very high risk strategy of making it clear to a number of the players we'll be depending on to keep us safe that he doesn't rate them.  This will kill confidence and motivation.  On top of that we have players who don't expect to be here next season anyway so won't be fearing the Championship no matter what happens.

A complete crash and burn where we go through the final 5 games scarcely picking up any points looks to me by no means impossible.  We could also be dependent on the same players in the play offs.

I'm not saying we'll get relegated - without going through the permutations I imagine we don't need too many more points to be safe - but I do think there's a genuine risk.  Ironically I'd be 100% sure we'd have stayed up if we hadn't sacked Glass - it's Goodwin's bull in a china shop act that's put us in danger.

 

Fair comment. Surprising strategy before ensuring safety.

[bennett]

53 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

I wish I was as confident.  With the cushion we have we should be safe, but Goodwin has adopted the very high risk strategy of making it clear to a number of the players we'll be depending on to keep us safe that he doesn't rate them.  This will kill confidence and motivation.  On top of that we have players who don't expect to be here next season anyway so won't be fearing the Championship no matter what happens.

A complete crash and burn where we go through the final 5 games scarcely picking up any points looks to me by no means impossible.  We could also be dependent on the same players in the play offs.

I'm not saying we'll get relegated - without going through the permutations I imagine we don't need too many more points to be safe - but I do think there's a genuine risk.  Ironically I'd be 100% sure we'd have stayed up if we hadn't sacked Glass - it's Goodwin's bull in a china shop act that's put us in danger.

 

I never expected that from Goodwin, he always seemed (as a manager) that he had his head screwed on.

Could he be trying to get the players to raise their game and show that they belong at Aberdeen?

 

[lubo_blaha]

I wish I was as confident.  With the cushion we have we should be safe, but Goodwin has adopted the very high risk strategy of making it clear to a number of the players we'll be depending on to keep us safe that he doesn't rate them.  This will kill confidence and motivation.  On top of that we have players who don't expect to be here next season anyway so won't be fearing the Championship no matter what happens.
A complete crash and burn where we go through the final 5 games scarcely picking up any points looks to me by no means impossible.  We could also be dependent on the same players in the play offs.
I'm not saying we'll get relegated - without going through the permutations I imagine we don't need too many more points to be safe - but I do think there's a genuine risk.  Ironically I'd be 100% sure we'd have stayed up if we hadn't sacked Glass - it's Goodwin's bull in a china shop act that's put us in danger.
 

Is there any evidence that he’s told any of the players who have been actually playing in our recent games that they’re not wanted at Aberdeen?

[Jacksgranda]

1 hour ago, lubo_blaha said:

Is there any evidence that he’s told any of the players who have been actually playing in our recent games that they’re not wanted at Aberdeen?

Going by comments about player performances, the answer is "yes".

Unless these are the ones he thinks can get us out of trouble, in which case, we are in trouble...

[Game of throw-ins]

43 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said:

Is there any evidence that he’s told any of the players who have been actually playing in our recent games that they’re not wanted at Aberdeen?

Ojo played against Ross County. McGeouch played against Hibs.  Considine was in the pool against Ross County.

But that's restricting things to players where management has made its intentions to part with players public, itself unusual at this stage of the campaign.  There is credible evidence that other players will be parted with. Lewis knows we're looking at goalkeepers.  There are strong rumours that McLennan has been told he can find another club.  It's an open secret that Ramirez is disaffected with the new regime and isn't expected to be here next season.

All that is on top of the manager reducing the first team pool by dumping JET and Scott Brown, who would both almost certainly have featured under Glass.

It's not just players who are being let go that are affected.  It's hardly likely to boost squad morale to see team mates being given the heave-ho.

I think Goodwin is playing a very risky game.

 

[afc_blockhead]

On the other hand which of these players told to leave (including for arguments sake the rumoured ones) have been busting a gut and playing well the last few months whilst apparently "safe"

[DukDukGoose]

Goodwin has a duty to let the players know they won't be here next season.

Nothing to see here.

[A96]

3 hours ago, lubo_blaha said:

Is there any evidence that he’s told any of the players who have been actually playing in our recent games that they’re not wanted at Aberdeen?

As far as I’m aware (apart from Considine) there hasn’t been any statements from Goodwin or any of the AFC management that , for instance , Ojo , McGeouch, McLennan And Lewis are no longer wanted.  Just media speculation, albeit possibly well-informed.

[Lord Snooty]

On 16/04/2022 at 17:18, Game of throw-ins said:

I still think he'll probably get Killie over the line.  If he does - and assuming we're not relegated - it'll be interesting to see how Killie do next season compared to us.  He's starting with a weak squad and much less resources than Goodwin, but I don't have a huge amount of confidence we'll finish above them.

 

Killie are rank rotten which doesn't say much for the rest. Dundee, SJ and SM would put them to the sword. Aberdeen would batter them. If they go up DM will need to sign a few decent players to have any chance of staying up. [And no doubt he will]

[coprolite]

52 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

Killie are rank rotten which doesn't say much for the rest. Dundee, SJ and SM would put them to the sword. Aberdeen would batter them. If they go up DM will need to sign a few decent players to have any chance of staying up. [And no doubt he will]

The post just above yours is a possible shopping list. 

[sergie's no1 fan]

4 hours ago, lubo_blaha said:

Is there any evidence that he’s told any of the players who have been actually playing in our recent games that they’re not wanted at Aberdeen?

He told our of of contract players he wasn't offering them a new deal really early on, maybe even January, so the players had enough time to get themselves sorted for the next season.

I can see both sides of it. Helps the player out in that sense but you do risk them taking the huff. You'd hope the majority would be professional enough to keep at it.

Robinson has done the same and it looks like our players have downed tools. Which is unacceptable tbh. Fair enough bad man management but they are still getting paid well enough to do a job.

[Game of throw-ins]

1 hour ago, afc_blockhead said:

On the other hand which of these players told to leave (including for arguments sake the rumoured ones) have been busting a gut and playing well the last few months whilst apparently "safe"

Well if you look at our average points per game under Glass and assume that had continued we'd have been comfortably safe.  That's not an apology for Glass, who I think was out of his depth, and can't complain about his sacking; nor is it a defence of the under-threat players who have certainly been underperforming. 

But although performances under Glass were far from satisfactory it's our performances under Goodwin that have put us in the relegation frame. 6 points from a possible 21.

To reiterate, I don't expect us to be relegated - 6 points more than 2nd bottom with a significantly better goal difference should be enough.  But I do think there's a risk of it that wasn't there before Goodwin took charge and started alienating players.

I have no problem with a big clear out by Goodwin, I just think he should have played his cards closer to his chest until we were safe.

If we get to the end of the season and stay up, Goodwin is out of jail and starts with a clean slate.  But if we do go into freefall and get relegated from here on in - and I don't think the risk is negligible - it will be Goodwin's recklessness that got us there.

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Game of throw-ins