Pie Of The Month Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 There's talk that if this goes through for Kilmarnock then Thistle will take over the deal with Glasgow Uni for Garscube so hopefully it happens. Currently the club trains at the Firhill complex on certain days which isn't big enough for the entire squad plus u20s and then have to go anywhere that'll take them on the days they can't book the complex. It seems a bit amateur for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I thought that these artificial pitches deteriorate relatively quickly with constant use? If you are going to be training and playing on it you are going to have to make a fortune from renting it out in free times. I don't know the figures for relaying a new pitch but does it not cost an absolute fortune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 How do you make money out of it 7 days a week, out of interest? Renting it out to local sports clubs (football, rugby), schools, junior football sides etc. In the winter months especially there may be other pro-clubs that will want to train there too if the prices are competitive, what with the hotel/gym etc all attached. We're only a 40 minute or so drive from plenty of sides. As someone said though, there will be deterioration so seven days a week might be too much. But you could realistically rent it out for 3 nights a week and make a substantial profit. Especially with the initial cost and upkeep being heavily subsidised by the council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcginns Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Genuine question....does a plastic pitch do away with need for an under pitch heating system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 A good move. We will hopefully do the same in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 According to SLO it will be best quality in Scottish football. Stealing our crown eh? Will need some effort to beat ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Stealing our crown eh? Will need some effort to beat ours. Falkirk FC. Home of the best artificial pitch in the Scottish Championship. #respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Stealing our crown eh? Will need some effort to beat ours. I haven't seen the pitches at queen of the south or hamilton(well I saw that on tv) which are meant to be of similar standard but even as a pars fan it was near impossible to think the surface at Falkirk isn't of an excellent standard, even my dad who has been less than complementary of other plastic pitches said it was a good surface. This article on stenhousemuir pretty much covers why 3G is very appealing to clubs http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/pitchequip/cs_stenhousemuir_37445.pdf I believe they are laying a new pitch this summer which would be right on schedule. The income the pitches generate is obviously going to mean more to smaller clubs than larger ones but then the larger clubs lose more cash from postponed games, they are also better suited to pay all the cost themselves meaning they can have more control over how the pitch is used, and ultimately more profit, if that's what they want to pursue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Genuine question....does a plastic pitch do away with need for an under pitch heating system? There isn't an USH requirement in SPFL, just "pitch protection". Clubs just have to demonstrate their 3G, tent, covers, whatever are adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KisforKillie Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What's the script with the hybrid surfaces they've got at e.g. Wembley and soon to go at Murrayfield. Would it be a better alternative or are they seriously expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padster Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'd much prefer a hybrid surface tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What's the script with the hybrid surfaces they've got at e.g. Wembley and soon to go at Murrayfield. Would it be a better alternative or are they seriously expensive? They seem to provide the best playing surface, however I see no reason why anybody in Scotland would install one barring Celtic possibly. Expensive and they provide no chance for the club to gain income from them , going down that route is almost the exact opposite to the 3G route, to install a hybrid pitch is to prioritise the playing surface regardless of the expense, 3G is used to bring income into the club, as well as other benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I only hope it's a better decision than the disasterous one to install the hot air under soil heating system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_vortex Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The pitch at Falkirk is by far the best I've seen . The one laid at Palmerston just last year has never been quite right and only yesterday they started ripping it up as the company who laid it have agreed to ' upgrade ' at already - basically they fucked up We've been promised it'll be the best in the land when finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 We've been promised it'll be the best in the land when finished So have we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 This is the way Scottish football will have to go. Ross County paid £330,000 for the pitch they laid this season whereas we paid £440,000 for out synthetic one which will last at least 7-10 years and is being used every day. Plastic is fantastic. Plus ours is the best in all the land and with the blue outline is also the smartest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The pitch at Falkirk is by far the best I've seen . The one laid at Palmerston just last year has never been quite right and only yesterday they started ripping it up as the company who laid it have agreed to ' upgrade ' at already - basically they fucked up We've been promised it'll be the best in the land when finished Yeah the one at Falkirk is the best. Seen Hamilton's (before they ripped it up) and Alloa's too back in the day and both looked fine. Queen of the South's pitch was one of the worst I've seen- it looked awful, all patchy so good to hear they have started to improve it. I can't see us moving from Grass. We don't really need to and the grass pitch is of a reasonable quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Genuine question....does a plastic pitch do away with need for an under pitch heating system? Aye, cos ye'll melt it. Seriously, tho', I walked out onto Airdrie's pitch last year, and didn't realise I was walking on plastic until I was told. We're now at 4G I believe, and though the ball does bounce differently from grass, you don't get the carpet burns from it the way you used to. (founder member of the Alex Beckett Slide-Tackle Guild) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I doubt we'll be going to plastic anytime soon after putting in a new sprinkler system under the pitch. That is one of the most important requiments if you have plastic. It needs an excellent sprinkler system as it requires watering for up to 2 hours before use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadasdillinger Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Got mates that play juniors who say the one at Largs is outstanding. Cost a pretty penny mind you, but the best surfaces are almost no different to playing on grass, which isn't without its own problems - Ross county would have won the 2-2 game if the ball hadn't got stuck in the goalmouth mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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