Lurkst Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Bairnardo said: What was the context of this? There was an interview with Mark Walters and part of it discussed the racism he encountered after moving to Scotland. Cue Archie going into full nostalgia mode about brandishing a banana on Sportscene, editing out monkey chants from highlights etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Can people stop picking on Utd please. We're trying to get some sleep down here in our lair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Discussing racism from 30 years ago? How about sectarianism from last week and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and... 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, 7-2 said: Discussing racism from 30 years ago? How about sectarianism from last week and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and... And tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crilly Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 40 minutes ago, 7-2 said: Discussing racism from 30 years ago? How about sectarianism from last week and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and... No-one condones racism but yes what about sectarianism here and now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, shull said: And tomorrow. Nah, that's Domestic Abuse day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Discussing racism from 30 years ago? How about sectarianism from last week and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and... Sshhhhhhhhhh.......you’ll wake them up from their Dark Age slumbers..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Wrongun Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 here we go, a really interesting match coming up, good time for them to give good coverage to the championship when no premier games are on tonight. End of year good chance to talk about why falkirk are now pish about the pars and livi doing well etc etc etc.... what do we get.... fricking old firm pish as always . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Absolutely this. There is little need to discuss racism in Scottish football these days. We can be proud of how it has been effectively stamped out. We have plenty still to be utterly ashamed of though. Like mocking disability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 The whole country is looking forward to the Celtic v Sevco match apparently. According to Bazza Ferguson anyway. I'm pretty certain that A and E staff won't be looking forward to it. Neither will the Womens Aid outreach workers. Or anybody who supports another side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Bigots enjoy it, normal people couldn't give a flying f**k about it. Far more interested in my own teams match tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 28/12/2017 at 20:41, DA Baracus said: Kris Commons said that we need a strong Dundee United in the Premiership. No one asked him why. Old slavering moron Archie Macpherson said that one of the things about the 'Old Firm'* game is that 'they both want to win it'. Quite how that distinguishes it from circa 99.99% of all games ever is a mystery (I would have said 100% but there was that dodgy draw in the World Cup that time) Another nailed in Scottish football's coffin tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 28/12/2017 at 22:48, pandarilla said: To play devil's advocate... Our game is short of money, and a lot of folk think that more money will improve the standard overall. Ergo bigger clubs = more money (higher gates, better TV deal). I'm not convinced by this argument but there is some rationale behind it. Throwing non existent money at the game in Scotland is foolhardy to say the least. Surely there was lessons learned in the demise of Rangers, the game in Scotland is only relevant within the confines of our borders and a few scattered worldwide.The product we have on offer has no attraction in a global sense. In the 80s when Aberdeen were at their peak with Dundee Utd their closest rivals both in a geographical and competitive sense, the need for both Celtic & Rangers to close the gap resulted in both these giants within the game encountering financial instability in their quest to regain the power within Scottish football. Both these clubs dealt with being unable to accept having to play 3rd-4th fiddle to the new firm by spending outwith their means which ultimately ended with Celtic being within hours of extinction if the press were to be believed without the intervention of Fergus McCann. Rangers at a later date did meet with extinction only to reappear under a different guise at a later date, this happened because of financial mismanagement of the club by Sir David Murray, Rangers are still dealing with the consequences of Murray's actions as they try to regain their standing within Scottish Football. So with regard to your post saying bigger finances improve the overall game in Scotland, perhaps they do but the quite recent history of the 2 establishment clubs in Scotland suggests that no amount of money, whether being spent prudently or otherwise will strengthen the game in Scotland. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Throwing non existent money at the game in Scotland is foolhardy to say the least. Surely there was lessons learned in the demise of Rangers, the game in Scotland is only relevant within the confines of our borders and a few scattered worldwide.The product we have on offer has no attraction in a global sense. In the 80s when Aberdeen were at their peak with Dundee Utd their closest rivals both in a geographical and competitive sense, the need for both Celtic & Rangers to close the gap resulted in both these giants within the game encountering financial instability in their quest to regain the power within Scottish football. Both these clubs dealt with being unable to accept having to play 3rd-4th fiddle to the new firm by spending outwith their means which ultimately ended with Celtic being within hours of extinction if the press were to be believed without the intervention of Fergus McCann. Rangers at a later date did meet with extinction only to reappear under a different guise at a later date, this happened because of financial mismanagement of the club by Sir David Murray, Rangers are still dealing with the consequences of Murray's actions as they try to regain their standing within Scottish Football. So with regard to your post saying bigger finances improve the overall game in Scotland, perhaps they do but the quite recent history of the 2 establishment clubs in Scotland suggests that no amount of money, whether being spent prudently or otherwise will strengthen the game in Scotland. Having no TV deal would probably even out the playing field a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 We're just waiting for a frog with a winning Euromillions ticket to come along. Even Kermit's not daft enough to invest in those Muppets [emoji111] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 28/12/2017 at 22:27, pandarilla said: McPherson was talking some amount of shite about video technology and the 1998 world cup tonight. Video tech is quite a complicated issue - and the contributors tonight made it ridiculously simple. The level of debate was fucking atrocious. I just heard the McPherson contribution on the subject. He really is simply a rambling old fool. He prattled on endlessly about a Norway penalty, which was utterly irrelevant in the context of debate over goal line technology. He also implied that it impacted on Scotland, which it didn't. When he was finished, his 'point' just had to be ignored. I've no idea why anyone thinks that inviting him on is sensible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Having no TV deal would probably even out the playing field a bit. It wouldn't, certainly not if the Champions League money still went to the Champions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: 9 hours ago, ayrmad said: Having no TV deal would probably even out the playing field a bit. It wouldn't, certainly not if the Champions League money still went to the Champions. I was thinking of it more as lessening the chances of getting to the group stages and all the other clubs home attendances against the ugly sisters might increase as the fans can't just switch on the telly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was thinking of it more as lessening the chances of getting to the group stages and all the other clubs home attendances against the ugly sisters might increase as the fans can't just switch on the telly. Why would attendances increase? Games arent televised at 3 on a Saturday anyway, so taking away the TV deal doesn't affect those attendances at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: 7 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I was thinking of it more as lessening the chances of getting to the group stages and all the other clubs home attendances against the ugly sisters might increase as the fans can't just switch on the telly. Why would attendances increase? Games arent televised at 3 on a Saturday anyway, so taking away the TV deal doesn't affect those attendances at all. It would increase the attendances of Motherwell when they are playing one of the big 2, I'm not suggesting the playing field can be levelled but the gap could be lessened. Personally I don't think there's any way that we could see a level playing field, any ways of doing that would involve clubs forgoing cash in some form to benefit others, won't happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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