AberdeenBud Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Im sure he probably was a horrible b*****d but 2.5 years in jail can change people for the better. Its not as if he just spent a weekend away that is serious time for anyone Sorry I must've missed his displays of humility and contrition, along with his attempts to distance himself from the victim blaming being undertaken in his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 There is more than Ched Evans to think about here.The boy is going to get his leg broken, if not worse, Christ it could even happen in training by one of his new team mates. It would have been in his best interest to stay away from the professional game. Imagine the scenario where someone takes him out, if you were the referee would you maybe claim you missed the incident? This will not end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Again people are going to think this now Come the end of the season no one will give a f**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 One sponsor isn't happy http://www.zenoffice.com/cms/viewarticle.aspx?ArticleID=161 ZenOffice have always believed that in order to be a successful business we need to give something back to the community. We have strong background in supporting local, community, family based initiatives in the North West. ZenOffice have been sponsors of Oldham Athletic Football Club for five years. This partnership has been based on mutual respect as OAFC did share the same values as ZenOffice, based on family and community. ZenOffice do not agree that the current path OAFC are embarking on espouses these values. Therefore it is with much regret, that ZenOffice would like to confirm that we will end our association with Oldham Athletic Football Club if the move goes ahead to sign Ched Evans. It obviously isn't in this sponsors best interest to get as much publicity out of this as possible and they care more about the victim in this sorry episode rather than how many headlines and column inches they can grab . This is a bit of a clusterfuck though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferryjambo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Had anyone heard of these diddy sponsors pulling out before hand? Yet now we have. Call me suspicous but their marketing managers seem to be playing this up as an advantage As for Ched. If he gangrapes the Oldham woman's team or u10's you can tell people you told us so but really time to let him move on. Whether he was guilty or not what is clear to me is that this was at the lesser end of sexual offences even if guilty. Maybe the media could stick to dealing with rapists who kidnap children or beat eldery woman and ensuring they never work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Had anyone heard of these diddy sponsors pulling out before hand? Yet now we have. Call me suspicous but their marketing managers seem to be playing this up as an advantage As for Ched. If he gangrapes the Oldham woman's team or u10's you can tell people you told us so but really time to let him move on. Whether he was guilty or not what is clear to me is that this was at the lesser end of sexual offences even if guilty. Maybe the media could stick to dealing with rapists who kidnap children or beat eldery woman and ensuring they never work again. I think Evans is a disgusting human being but if he manages to gangrape an entire football team all by himself I won't be able to do anything but doff my cap to the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Whether he was guilty or not what is clear to me is that this was at the lesser end of sexual offences even if guilty. Maybe the media could stick to dealing with rapists who kidnap children or beat eldery woman and ensuring they never work again. Not sure if serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferryjambo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Not sure if serious I'm serious in that the details of Ched Evan's rape is far less serious than say breaking into pensioners houses in the dark of night to rape them, or kidnapping children off the street to commit sex offences against them. Yes some will say rape is rape however I just can't help but think the media and public are far more likely to turn Ched into a monster here than he ever was. What's the guy meant to do for the remaining 60 years of his life? Never work? Also worth noting I don't recall the same level of outcry about Marlon King and he had multiple offences to his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Relatively sensible article on the BBC website. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30697264 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If he apologises then its admitting his guilt surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Wait, you think it's entirely acceptable for a rapist out on license to be allowed to work in the entertainment industry? im sure you can find my posts stating that, if not just answer my question what industry should evans be allowed to work in, or more to the point, what industry has to put up with a convicted rapist while others dont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 There is more than Ched Evans to think about here.The boy is going to get his leg broken, if not worse, Christ it could even happen in training by one of his new team mates. It would have been in his best interest to stay away from the professional game. Imagine the scenario where someone takes him out, if you were the referee would you maybe claim you missed the incident? This will not end well. if one of his teammates could break his leg, whats to stop someone doing him in with a hammer on a building site, or doing him in anywhere else nobody has yet been able to answer the question as to how a football player can go back to work if he's not allowed in football why should other industries have to put up with him, especially female workers of other industries, when football doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 im sure you can find my posts stating that, if not just answer my question what industry should evans be allowed to work in, or more to the point, what industry has to put up with a convicted rapist while others dont? Any job where he isn't in a position of influence over vulnerable people, or in the public spotlight as a role model. This really isn't that hard, and the vast, vast majority of jobs would still be open to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Had anyone heard of these diddy sponsors pulling out before hand? Yet now we have. Call me suspicous but their marketing managers seem to be playing this up as an advantage As for Ched. If he gangrapes the Oldham woman's team or u10's you can tell people you told us so but really time to let him move on. Whether he was guilty or not what is clear to me is that this was at the lesser end of sexual offences even if guilty. Maybe the media could stick to dealing with rapists who kidnap children or beat eldery woman and ensuring they never work again. Whether he was guilty or not? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 if one of his teammates could break his leg, whats to stop someone doing him in with a hammer on a building site, or doing him in anywhere else nobody has yet been able to answer the question as to how a football player can go back to work if he's not allowed in football why should other industries have to put up with him, especially female workers of other industries, when football doesnt It's got nothing to do with him coming into contact with women. If he was deemed a risk he'd still be in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferryjambo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Whether he was guilty or not? Seriously? Yes given he has denied the offence and a criminal review is under way I am happy to suggest he could or could not be guilty. I actually think it will be overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes given he has denied the offence and a criminal review is under way I am happy to suggest he could or could not be guilty. I actually think it will be overturned. So innocent until proven guilty, and then proved guilty again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferryjambo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 So innocent until proven guilty, and then proved guilty again? Let's be honest here. If this was a sober woman and a drunk guy with roles reversed this would never have got beyond the interview room at the police station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 if one of his teammates could break his leg, whats to stop someone doing him in with a hammer on a building site, or doing him in anywhere else nobody has yet been able to answer the question as to how a football player can go back to work if he's not allowed in football why should other industries have to put up with him, especially female workers of other industries, when football doesnt To be honest I wouldn't care if a brickie or joiner broke his leg with a hammer. What I do not want to see is another professional footballer being put in the position of having the stigma (or honour) of ending someone else's career who shouldn't even be on the same pitch as him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Let's be honest here. If this was a sober woman and a drunk guy with roles reversed this would never have got beyond the interview room at the police station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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