When will indyref2 happen?

[BawWatchin]

Perhaps if less Labour members, supporters, mps.... etc stopped reading the sun, Labour would stop turning against itself?

[Benjamin_Nevis]

22 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

26 minutes ago, Detournement said:

In terms of people who vote against their class interest I doubt it.
Scotland and the UK are rife with pointless snobbery about council housing, benefits and types of consumption. Low income people are the ones who are living in council housing or shit private rents, claiming benefits, going on holiday to caravans or Blackpool and shopping at Iceland and Asda. Do you really think they are looking down on themselves?
 

No, I think they have been tricked into looking down on others.

This is correct. It's an attitude I come across a lot in my job (I work in Welfare Rights) and it's virtually inescapable on social media. Hell it's even in my family 

My parents were never what could be considered middle class, and indeed my old man was pretty much a socialist in the 80s having suffered through Thatcher's destruction of heavy industry. They're now both hardline Tories and won't hear a word against them. Every single minor life inconvenience is the fault of "Sturgeon" and they can't stand Corbyn. Any visit to them invariably contains a snide reference to "how many folk have you helped get benefits this week then?" Reminding them that State Pension is a benefit is usually a good laugh, and for added seethe I occasionally chuck in the estimated monetary gains for my month's appeal wins 

Even worse are my bird's family. Won't have any criticism of Theresa May and the tories. She's recently failed a PIP assessment despite having a long term brain injury and shitloads of side effects. We visited her parents the other week not long after she got the decision letter and were subjected to a long rant about it being the SNP's fault. I can only assume this is for failing to protect her from the party her mum actually votes for. Tory welfare reform has cause actual financial hardship to members of her family and still they champion the fucking tories. Mental. 

In my experience, by far the worst demographic for looking down on benefit claimants are (ironically) pensioners. I'll never forget having to deal with a ranting pensioner in my old job who was absolutely boiling at not getting Council Tax Reduction despite having £400,000 savings and two other properties he rented out. He genuinely thought he should get it for simply being a pensioner and duly ticked every cliched box, ie "I've paid in all my years", "immigrants and junkies get all the benefits", "what about all those syrian refugees?". Just an old c**t, sadly there are many more who hold similar, bullshit views. 

 

[BawWatchin]

6 minutes ago, jupe1407 said:

This is correct. It's an attitude I come across a lot in my job (I work in Welfare Rights) and it's virtually inescapable on social media. Hell it's even in my family 

My parents were never what could be considered middle class, and indeed my old man was pretty much a socialist in the 80s having suffered through Thatcher's destruction of heavy industry. They're now both hardline Tories and won't hear a word against them. Every single minor life inconvenience is the fault of "Sturgeon" and they can't stand Corbyn. Any visit to them invariably contains a snide reference to "how many folk have you helped get benefits this week then?" Reminding them that State Pension is a benefit is usually a good laugh, and for added seethe I occasionally chuck in the estimated monetary gains for my month's appeal wins 

Even worse are my bird's family. Won't have any criticism of Theresa May and the tories. She's recently failed a PIP assessment despite having a long term brain injury and shitloads of side effects. We visited her parents the other week not long after she got the decision letter and were subjected to a long rant about it being the SNP's fault. I can only assume this is for failing to protect her from the party her mum actually votes for. Tory welfare reform has cause actual financial hardship to members of her family and still they champion the fucking tories. Mental. 

In my experience, by far the worst demographic for looking down on benefit claimants are (ironically) pensioners. I'll never forget having to deal with a ranting pensioner in my old job who was absolutely boiling at not getting Council Tax Reduction despite having £400,000 savings and two other properties he rented out. He genuinely thought he should get it for simply being a pensioner and duly ticked every cliched box, ie "I've paid in all my years", "immigrants and junkies get all the benefits", "what about all those syrian refugees?". Just an old c**t, sadly there are many more who hold similar, bullshit views. 

 

You should have went full tory on them and blamed their daughter for being a scrounger who is faking it for the benefits. The scenes would have been spectacular.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

4 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

You should have went full tory on them and blamed their daughter for being a scrounger who is faking it for the benefits. The scenes would have been spectacular.

Might have made Sunday tea a tad awkward tbh

I'll just drop the "State Pension is a benefit" bomb some time. The seethe that causes pensioners really is wonderful.

[ICTJohnboy]

Just now, jupe1407 said:

Might have made Sunday tea a tad awkward tbh

I'll just drop the "State Pension is a benefit" bomb some time. The seethe that causes pensioners really is wonderful.

 

You don't have your problems to seek, mate...

[Granny Danger]

11 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

You don't have your problems to seek, mate...

From what I can see, jupe is very opposed to rascism, sexism and homophobia but revels in ageism.

He obviously sees it as the acceptable face of bigotry.

[BawWatchin]

8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

From what I can see, jupe is very opposed to rascism, sexism and homophobia but revels in ageism.

He obviously sees it as the acceptable face of bigotry.

It's more senilism than ageism. Although they're both synonyms.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

From what I can see, jupe is very opposed to rascism, sexism and homophobia but revels in ageism.

He obviously sees it as the acceptable face of bigotry.

Might have known you'd be crying tiny tears about this.

Ageism 

 

[welshbairn]

40 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

From what I can see, jupe is very opposed to rascism, sexism and homophobia but revels in ageism.

He obviously sees it as the acceptable face of bigotry.

Ageism? In my day we just got cheeky wee c***s who got a slap and learnt to respect their elders.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Ageism? In my day we just got cheeky wee c***s who got a slap and learnt to respect their elders.

Don't encourage him to try and square-go P&B posters again ffs 

[DA Baracus]

I see someone has managed to out themselves as a snob by slipping in a bit about poor folk shopping in Asda.

One has to imagine said poster sticks strictly to Waitrose.

Edited October 26, 2018 by DA Baracus

[ICTJohnboy]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Ageism? In my day we just got cheeky wee c***s who got a slap and learnt to respect their elders.

 

Exactly.  Never did us any harm.

They fought in the war for the likes of us after all.

[moncaidh ruadh]

6 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Exactly.  Never did us any harm.

They fought in the war for the likes of us after all.

Yes. We have much to be thankful for.

[BawWatchin]

7 minutes ago, moncaidh ruadh said:

Yes. We have much to be thankful for.

I'll be mindful of where I take a leak, next time i'm at my local cemetery.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I see someone has managed to out themselves as a snob by slipping in a bit about poor folk shopping in Asda.
One has to imagine said poster sticks strictly to Waitrose.

I shop in Aldi, but cmon lets be honest here Asda is the absolute pits.

[moncaidh ruadh]

2 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

I'll be mindful of where I take a leak, next time i'm at my local cemetery.

Weirdo

[DublinMagyar]

I see someone has managed to out themselves as a snob by slipping in a bit about poor folk shopping in Asda.
One has to imagine said poster sticks strictly to Waitrose.

Surprised he didn't mention Goldbergs tbh

[Gaz FFC]

2 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

I see someone has managed to out themselves as a snob by slipping in a bit about poor folk shopping in Asda.

One has to imagine said poster sticks strictly to Waitrose.

I shop in Asda 

Are me and my wife poor? 

I wish I'd realised this before now 

[Gaz FFC]

1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I shop in Aldi, but cmon lets be honest here Asda is the absolute pits.

[Gaz FFC]

4 hours ago, jupe1407 said:

Every single minor life inconvenience is the fault of "Sturgeon"

Even worse are my bird's family. Won't have any criticism of Theresa May and the tories. She's recently failed a PIP assessment despite having a long term brain injury and shitloads of side effects. We visited her parents the other week not long after she got the decision letter and were subjected to a long rant about it being the SNP's fault. 

I've realised this type of behaviour is rife. Where the f**k does this come from?

I have to say Jupe you must be very tolerable as I would have lost my shit by now with my folks and the in-laws.