jakedee Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I reckon if she had any sort of following, she would have been elected Westmister party leader. Genuine question, I’m not a member of the SNP but is there any actual wish from people within the SNP for a Cherry to be leader? Apart from Cherry herself. She seems to get support from yer da types and people who hate trans people (bit of a Venn diagram, I’m aware), but I wouldn’t have thought she’s actually very popular within the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 25/06/2020 at 02:38, The_Kincardine said: I wonder what the exchange rate against The Provi will be in New Scotchland. I dunno, is it important? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Cherry is an impressive parliamentarian and, from what I've seen of her, has many of the attributes to be an effective frontline politician, so it's a shame how she chooses to direct her energy at times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Everyone's met a Kincardine. Nobody treats them seriously in the real world. The same rules should apply for the internet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I saw the National recently showed support for Indy at an "all time high" of 54%. I find this pretty demoralising if I'm honest. Given the highly politicised times we're living in I assumed it would be higher. Are people becoming less politicised up here or are we just a bit fatigued with covid/Trump/Boris etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, velo army said: I saw the National recently showed support for Indy at an "all time high" of 54%. I find this pretty demoralising if I'm honest. Given the highly politicised times we're living in I assumed it would be higher. Are people becoming less politicised up here or are we just a bit fatigued with covid/Trump/Boris etc? Most folk seem to have made their minds up a while back. Wee things like the government in Westminster being useless and self-serving isn't going to dissuade them from the notion that This Is The Way Things Should Be. They're slowly dying off, and those that are left are finding it difficult to convince the new generation of young adults why the status quo is a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 ^^^this. Westminster could legalize pedophilia and you'd have all the gammons up north revelling in delight whilst most people won't give a f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Most folk seem to have made their minds up a while back. Wee things like the government in Westminster being useless and self-serving isn't going to dissuade them from the notion that This Is The Way Things Should Be. They're slowly dying off, and those that are left are finding it difficult to convince the new generation of young adults why the status quo is a good thing. Screeching that they’re brainwashed PC brigade snowflakes who don’t even respect Eton and Churchill and are too disgustingly liberal to laugh at the coloureds and the Polskies isn’t convincing them of the benefits of being part of Little Britain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MixuFruit said: Na given what Tabby Dave has said 54% is a tectonic movement. Now to see if it's going to hold. If it can be held, it’s a baseline I would happily take going into another indyref. If only the dear leader down south and his enabling vassals up here would let us have one... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Antlion said: Screeching that they’re brainwashed PC brigade snowflakes who don’t even respect Eton and Churchill and are too disgustingly liberal to laugh at the coloureds and the Polskies isn’t convincing them of the benefits of being part of Little Britain? I daresay anyone doing that isn't terribly interested in changing minds anyway. 5 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Na given what Tabby Dave has said 54% is a tectonic movement. Now to see if it's going to hold. It kind of is. That's a lot of movement on an issue where people have become fairly entrenched. Not that my opinion matters, but I think it'll keep slowly growing, with occasional fluctuations. That's the way it's been going for decades. I'm not sure what it would take to reverse that. We might live to see an independent Scotland, which is something I never thought would happen in my lifetime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I notice that the Mail and Express keep pushing the Sturgeon in trouble line - promoting the agenda of the likes of Cherry.That tells you everything. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I don't mind Cherry, but she does have one of those 'look at me, I'm right all the time' faces so could turn a few off. Sturgeon is just better 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 The Cherry thing is like when folk were losing their minds about Jacob Reece-Mogg becoming leader of the Tories. It's just never going to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Here was me thinking Glen Minter had forgot his password. Must be hard remembering them all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, AUFC90 said: Here was me thinking Glen Minter had forgot his password. Must be hard remembering them all. "1690" isn't that hard to remember, even for morons. Irvine Welsh has a lot to answer for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said: To be fair, we all spent 2014 losing our minds about how the Tories/UKIP would drag us out the EU against our will, and Boris Johnson would become PM. It all felt a bit of a stretch then it happened! I’m not sure it was a huge part of the 2014 “Yes” campaign; as I recall, it was more a response to BritNats claiming we’d be kicked out of the EU if we dared to govern ourselves. And when we pointed out the reality of English Europhobia and Toryism, we were accused of baseless “scare-mongering” by UK supporters who now advocate the horrific results they claimed were scary and unthinkably bad. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 It strikes me now though that given the state of politics at UK level, far right tory government, incompetence, brexit, that the no campaign of any indy ref 2 basically has to align itself far further to the right on any campaign which plays very much into the hands of the yes campaign which can move safely closer to the centre. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It's interesting that Johnson and Rees-Mogg are dropping into current political talk that there isn't a Scotland England border, that Scotland is a region and now we have English air bridges announced - without 4 nation agreement. Factor in the 49% of English Tories who would like English independence and it looks promising for another increase in those wanting indy up here. Especially as the Scottish government continue with what seems a clear plan (mind you, anything would seem competent when judged against Westminster) to cut the effects of Covid even further. We really are a different country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 As I've said before, so much for a union of nations. We're literally treated and talked about like a region of England. Somebody prove me otherwise because it's clear as fucking day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Sound @The_Kincardine horn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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