welshbairn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, tirso said: So hypothetically if a majority of Scottish citizens want another vote you agree the majority view should prevail? Or not? He won't answer that because the polls indicate a majority for the right to choose, even if they might vote No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 hours ago, tirso said: So hypothetically if a majority of Scottish citizens want another vote you agree the majority view should prevail? Or not? They don't and our view is prevailing. It's really simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky3 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, welshbairn said: He won't answer that because the polls indicate a majority for the right to choose, even if they might vote No. No they don't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 They don't and our view is prevailing. It's really simple. Sure. And if that changes and a majority want one? You go with the majority yes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 hours ago, tirso said: So hypothetically if a majority of Scottish citizens want another vote you agree the majority view should prevail? Or not? 41 minutes ago, Malky3 said: They don't and our view is prevailing. It's really simple. Told you. You have to con him into making a response at all with direct questions, but even then you don't get an answer. It's really not worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 It's laughable. Maybe he is a troll. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. Told you. You have to con him into making a response at all with direct questions, but even then you don't get an answer. It's really not worth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Here's a more recent poll (post General Election) than the one that Manky quoted. Note that this poll doesn't attempt to skew the responses by imposing a time limit. Note also that the article is from the (rabidly pro-union) Scotsman https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-majority-of-scots-believe-there-should-be-an-indyref2-1-5064385 "Poll: Majority of Scots believe there should be an IndyRef2 by CHRIS MCCALL Email Published: 17:37 Updated: 18:04 Wednesday 18 December 2019 A majority of Scots believe a second referendum on independence should take place at some point in the future, a poll has suggested. The survey by YouGov found 46 per cent of respondents north of the Border want an IndyRef2, without specifying a date, with 43 per cent against and 11 per cent undecided." I assume the Yoons that claim that they support making the decision via the ballot box will now campaign to allow a vote? No? Colour me surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Malky is a lying simpleton, for the sake of this board and my all round forum experience, please stop quoting him. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Here's a more recent poll (post General Election) than the one that Manky quoted. Note that this poll doesn't attempt to skew the responses by imposing a time limit. Note also that the article is from the (rabidly pro-union) Scotsman https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-majority-of-scots-believe-there-should-be-an-indyref2-1-5064385 "Poll: Majority of Scots believe there should be an IndyRef2 by CHRIS MCCALL Email Published: 17:37 Updated: 18:04 Wednesday 18 December 2019 A majority of Scots believe a second referendum on independence should take place at some point in the future, a poll has suggested. The survey by YouGov found 46 per cent of respondents north of the Border want an IndyRef2, without specifying a date, with 43 per cent against and 11 per cent undecided." I assume the Yoons that claim that they support making the decision via the ballot box will now campaign to allow a vote? No? Colour me surprised.Of course without specifying a date people may wish another vote to be in 5 years, 25 years or 50 years time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Of course without specifying a date people may wish another vote to be in 5 years, 25 years or 50 years time! Or tomorrow. It's fairer than comparing each sub section to never. Edited January 22, 2020 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Of course without specifying a date people may wish another vote to be in 5 years, 25 years or 50 years time! The wording of the actual question asked was "Do you think there should or should not be another vote on Scottish Independence?" No more, no less. Do you really think that a person that wanted another vote in 50 years (and not before) would answer "Yes" to that question? The words "at some point in the future" were added by the journalist (the clue was when I described the Scotsman as "rabidly pro union") It's an old trick, but people still fall for journalists misquoting the question that was actually asked by the pollster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 20 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: That's the direction that The Natters on here are moving towards. It's not just @Wee Bullyor @Granny Danger's posts but remember @BawWatchin's Scottish Republican Army thread of shame. There is something absolutely rotten about the Natters on here. I'm so mediocre, I'm under the radar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Why are Unionists so against another referendum anyway? Are they concerned that without utter garbage promises and "vows" wrote on toilet paper, people might actually not be so gullible 2nd time? To actually complain that the Scottish government want to know what the people of Scotland want to democratically do is not normal behaviour. Neither though is wanting another Country, especially 1 as fucked up as England to control you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Why are Unionists so against another referendum anyway? Are they concerned that without utter garbage promises and "vows" wrote on toilet paper, people might actually not be so gullible 2nd time? To actually complain that the Scottish government want to know what the people of Scotland want to democratically do is not normal behaviour. Neither though is wanting another Country, especially 1 as fucked up as England to control you. #stockholmsyndrome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Gaz FFC said: Why are Unionists so against another referendum anyway? Are they concerned that without utter garbage promises and "vows" wrote on toilet paper, people might actually not be so gullible 2nd time? To actually complain that the Scottish government want to know what the people of Scotland want to democratically do is not normal behaviour. Neither though is wanting another Country, especially 1 as fucked up as England to control you. Cause they don't have to grant one and there's little indication they'll be forced to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Cause they don't have to grant one and there's little indication they'll be forced to. We don't need them to "grant one". Ireland sure didn't need it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: We don't need them to "grant one". Ireland sure didn't need it. The SNP appear to be focused heavily on being granted one and given they're hegemonic in the independence movement, we do need permission from somewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 HAHA. WHY CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THIS?! 55% of Scotland voted to stay in the United Kingdom... Welcome to the politics thread, welcome to P&B. Good to see you joined a football forum to post directly into politics thread. I applaud your commitment 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 You are incorrect. But I welcome the welcome. HAHA.Is HAHA some sort of Grimboesqe signature 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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