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2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:

 


Does SSN count as journalism?

I don’t have Sky these days but I’ve always just thought it’s a glorified advert for what’s on sky sports

 

Of course it's got a lot to do with promoting their own coverage.

I still think it can be classed as broadcast journalism though.  Appalling broadcast journalism.

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1 hour ago, The Master said:

In one Tweet, everything that is wrong with the Scottish football media.

If Aberdeen had lost to Celtic, little would have been said about it. Ditto Hibs. Or Hearts. Or any other team in the top flight.

But the media just can't see past Celtic and "Rangers".  Unless they're on an equal footing, with the title decided by the games between them, there's some kind of "crisis" that must be given airtime. There's a complete unwillingness to accept that "Rangers" are just a run-of-the-mill top 6 side. 

There's also this absurd notion in there, that an ex-player's reading of the situation might carry some value.

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1 hour ago, The Master said:

In one Tweet, everything that is wrong with the Scottish football media.

If Aberdeen had lost to Celtic, little would have been said about it. Ditto Hibs. Or Hearts. Or any other team in the top flight.

But the media just can't see past Celtic and "Rangers".  Unless they're on an equal footing, with the title decided by the games between them, there's some kind of "crisis" that must be given airtime. There's a complete unwillingness to accept that "Rangers" are just a run-of-the-mill top 6 side. 

Surely "square one" would be back to the bottom of league 2?

Quite a harsh punishment just for failing to beat Celtic but one that I fully support nonetheless. 

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1 hour ago, The Master said:

In one Tweet, everything that is wrong with the Scottish football media.

If Aberdeen had lost to Celtic, little would have been said about it. Ditto Hibs. Or Hearts. Or any other team in the top flight.

But the media just can't see past Celtic and "Rangers".  Unless they're on an equal footing, with the title decided by the games between them, there's some kind of "crisis" that must be given airtime. There's a complete unwillingness to accept that "Rangers" are just a run-of-the-mill top 6 side. 

If they never mentioned it you'd people accusing them of covering up Sevco's rubbishness. In this case it's damned if you do and ....

 

 

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2 minutes ago, bennett said:

If they never mentioned it you'd people accusing them of covering up Sevco's rubbishness. In this case it's damned if you do and ....

 

 

Sevco fan in missing the point shocker. 

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6 hours ago, ancientnoise said:

I must be missing the point here too, but I'm not sure where the grievance or bad journalism is in that particular tweet. 

It's the expectation that "Rangers" should be on a par with Celtic, and if they aren't it's headline news that requires forensic dissection. The media can't accept that "Rangers" are now simply a top-6 team that will be competing with the likes of Aberdeen, Hibs and (you'd imagine) Hearts for a European place (never mind second).

It might have been different if this were a sudden falling off a cliff after winning the treble last season. That would be a fairly big story about any club in any league. But it's not. There's a 6-year+ backstory that keeps getting forgotten because "Rangers" should always be competing with Celtic. Period.

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17 hours ago, The Master said:

In one Tweet, everything that is wrong with the Scottish football media.

If Aberdeen had lost to Celtic, little would have been said about it. Ditto Hibs. Or Hearts. Or any other team in the top flight.

But the media just can't see past Celtic and "Rangers".  Unless they're on an equal footing, with the title decided by the games between them, there's some kind of "crisis" that must be given airtime. There's a complete unwillingness to accept that "Rangers" are just a run-of-the-mill top 6 side. 

For me it's surprising that before that 1 game they felt everything was as it should be in Govan and that they would actually give Celtic a game.

1 look through that line-up and I could see where my money would be.

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I'd be advising the weans and grandweans to prepare a wee flutter thanks to the the Beeb.

 

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St Mirren's Championship win is an even greater achievement than the Paisley club's League Cup triumph of 2103, says goalkeeper Craig Samson. (Daily Express, print edition)

 

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On ‎14‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 12:14, C. Muir said:

Seen this belter from Jim Craig in the record this morning. 

Mon the celtic tomorrow (according to him) :blink:Snapchat-1113984351.thumb.jpg.84d6eaf881b234701bb8a07babbf7c78.jpg

 

There is no Third Division as well. Almost as stupid as folk who still refer to the Premiership as the SPL

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20 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

There's also this absurd notion in there, that an ex-player's reading of the situation might carry some value.

It's boom time for ex-Rangers players to give identikit interviews about how they lack fight, passion, desire.

Celtic are miles ahead of them and will keep beating them as long as they are.  All the fight and passion and staunchness mean nothing given that.  The way that football is discussed and talked about means that actually improving the way Rangers play is overlooked for the story of getting more fight into the Bers etc.    And if it's not about getting more riled up you get ex-players saying they need to spend money to compete with Celtic - it isn't there lads!

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3 hours ago, ICTChris said:

It's boom time for ex-Rangers players to give identikit interviews about how they lack fight, passion, desire.

Celtic are miles ahead of them and will keep beating them as long as they are.  All the fight and passion and staunchness mean nothing given that.  The way that football is discussed and talked about means that actually improving the way Rangers play is overlooked for the story of getting more fight into the Bers etc.    And if it's not about getting more riled up you get ex-players saying they need to spend money to compete with Celtic - it isn't there lads!

There's this daft, mindless subtext that they won loads when fielding guys like Numan and Van Bronckhurst because they  had such drive and desire; rather than were simply suitably blessed that they could command the kind of wages that Rangers were then prepared (though ultimately unable) to pay.

Rangers aren't much worse now because their players lack passion and effort.  Their current players just aren't as good at football.

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/blundering-rangers-chief-dave-king-12381558

This whole article is tragic. Jackson raging that his two sources are about to get booted.

Weeks ago Jackson was claiming Murty was doing a decent job to right the ship and now it’s all changed.

He is awful, how does a guy this poor become a chief sportswriter anywhere.

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23 minutes ago, thehoss said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/blundering-rangers-chief-dave-king-12381558

This whole article is tragic. Jackson raging that his two sources are about to get booted.

Weeks ago Jackson was claiming Murty was doing a decent job to right the ship and now it’s all changed.

He is awful, how does a guy this poor become a chief sportswriter anywhere.

For the same reason that Traynor wore the Crown of Succulence before him.....bigotry and hatred ..the quote from Swello on my sig below says it all.

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11 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

There's this daft, mindless subtext that they won loads when fielding guys like Numan and Van Bronckhurst because they  had such drive and desire; rather than were simply suitably blessed that they could command the kind of wages that Rangers were then prepared (though ultimately unable) to pay.

Rangers aren't much worse now because their players lack passion and effort.  Their current players just aren't as good at football.

You see it from fans of every club when they're going through a bad spell. Brechin fans are even claiming lack of passion and effort. It's just a meaningless cliche that thick football fans spout (see also: the manager has lost the dressing room; the manager is tactically naive).

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11 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Rangers aren't much worse now because their players lack passion and effort.  Their current players just aren't as good at football.

But passion and effort are all you need when you're a persecuted underdog like Sevco or Celtic.

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21 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

You see it from fans of every club when they're going through a bad spell. Brechin fans are even claiming lack of passion and effort. It's just a meaningless cliche that thick football fans spout (see also: the manager has lost the dressing room; the manager is tactically naive).

Plus a player or team has 'lost confidence'.  That's a particular favourite at the moment.

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1 hour ago, DA Baracus said:

You see it from fans of every club when they're going through a bad spell. Brechin fans are even claiming lack of passion and effort. It's just a meaningless cliche that thick football fans spout (see also: the manager has lost the dressing room; the manager is tactically naive).

Yep, ignoring the blantenty obvious fact that Brechin City have far, far inferior players than the rest of the league.

 

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