GordonD Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Daydream said: And a decent pension, I think. Assuming they don't get killed before they can collect it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 It always amazes me when they get a guy on the tv who's had half his limbs blown off talking about how "he has no regrets and he'd do it all again".Firstly, I would have major regrets. And secondly, it really demonstrates how much these guys are brainwashed into thinking that what they're doing is incredibly beneficial and that any pain and suffering that comes with it is worth it. Brutal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13 hours ago, Dee Man said: No, that's number one. I think he is suggesting that your post is too sensible for this thread. Don't be silly, where would I get a job like that in Scotland? I'm a lion tamer. Oh... apologies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Stellaboz said: I will hold a personal respect for those who had to endure the two world wars without buying a poppy or doing anything. I don't see why i should have to plaster it in people's faces. Look at me, I'm totally an amazing person for "showing respect"!!! Fck off. Indeed. One set of fandans insist it should be plastered in people's faces. The other set of fandans reckon its offensive. They are both wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 hours ago, GordonD said: Assuming they don't get killed before they can collect it. Indeed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 8 hours ago, SlipperyP said: I don't know why I'm posting this but here goes. As some or most of you know, my childhood was not the norm. This effected my education. When I left kicked out as I then 16 years old, education system passed me on to the social works department. I was in fear. I had a careers office at the time (alky Tam) I called him. This guy set me up with 2 men (I didn;t know their status). from the British army, who manipulated me, bribed & physically abuse me in a 4 hour meeting. Worst was they spoke about my mother & father and how I let them down. They knew about my father & me, they gave me hell. Reverse Psychology at it's greatest. I didn't join. I got a job in the local council, the rest is fairytale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Daily Mail has exploded with rage http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897266/FIFA-official-poppy-ban-five-months-experience-football.html My Favourite Quote: " Gemzz, Lancs, United Kingdom, less than a minute ago OUT WITH FIFA, OUT WITH THE EU!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 There's a thing in George Square which, as best as I could tell since I didn't want to get too close to the crowd in front taking pictures, seems to be a bronze coloured statue of a WWI soldier inside a big plexiglass pyramid which has poppies inside which get blown around like a big pointy snowglobe. Presumably anyone who thinks it's a good idea (to spend money on that rather than, erm, putting it to charitable use are unaware of the huge cenotaph which takes up the bottom 5th of the area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Let's be honest, a lot of people and entities in the public only wear/show one because they feel it's expected of them and there would be negative consequences for them if they didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 6 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: TBF I don't really think Gunther has a grasp on the principles of remuneration for labour in a capitalist system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 6 hours ago, renton said: The thing about the Poppies and Rememberance, originally was that the sentiment was 'lest we forget' - not just the lives lost but the attitudes, the decisions that led to all out industrialised slaughter in the first place. Fields Marshall Earl Haig set up the Earl Haig Fund to remember the decisions that led to all out industrial slaughter? Quote The late 20s and 30s was full of people for whom the memory of war was one of utter futility, Futility?No projection of modern values here then. Quote where kids walk around in T-shirts with "future soldier" written on them, Never seen one. Quote where the respect due to soldiers has morphed into reverence and almost into full scale worship. Bollox. You are laying it on a bit thick, but playing the home crowds favourite tunes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Haig set the fund up to remember his decisions then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, dorlomin said: Fields Marshall Earl Haig set up the Earl Haig Fund to remember the decisions that led to all out industrial slaughter? Futility?No projection of modern values here then. Never seen one. Bollox. You are laying it on a bit thick, but playing the home crowds favourite tunes. I'm well aware of who set up the poppy fund, Haig of course was a national hero who's reputation took a hammering in the years succeeding his death (even if there was little else he could've done than what he did during the war). However, i'd argue that from the famous pacifist oxford debates to appeasement itself there reflected an appetite to avoid another blood letting and that the notion of the futility of the first war was far from a projection of modern values but rather was a contemporary attitude in many sections of society right up to the 2nd war. As for the rest, yeah I seen one on facebook this morning, as for reverence, I believe that's certainly reflected in modern attitudes to soldiers - probably stemming from the Falklands: begun as a pride in "the empire striking back" at a time when the UK was the sick man of Europe. Morphing through the noughties and pushed relentlessly through the right wing press and lately by blatant facebook clicktivism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Quick q and I don't know the answer.... So, no googling folks. Q/ When was the last time the UK was 'at War'? Falklands wasn't one from memory, neither was Vietnam, don't think Suez was, so maybe Korea? Awaits one of our learned heroes to reply.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Gulf war 1? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) The Independent reporting that England will ignore FIFA's ruling. A quick skim through the comments suggest that many people think FIFA is run by Muslims. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/fifa-poppy-ban-england-scotland-fa-players-will-wear-remembrance-day-a7393591.html Lest we forget...what exactly? Edited November 2, 2016 by Shotgun Added the link 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, Daydream said: Gulf war 1? Doubt it that a Declaration of War event happened there tbh. Annnnd Scotland & En@land to defy Fifa. I hope Infantina throws them both out (we're not qualifying anyways). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'm with FIFA on this one. No place in football for it. If they miraculously give in it should only happen on 11/11, no other day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, tree house tam said: I'm with FIFA on this one. No place in football for it. If they miraculously give in it should only happen on 11/11, no other day. It's a simple mark of recalling how shite killing folk is and it's apolitical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: It's a simple mark of recalling how shite killing folk is and it's apolitical. Let this happen and it could open the floodgates to loads of shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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