General Politics Thread

[Granny Danger]

Tories determined to appeal to the their most uncaring supporters.

Boris Johnson: Fifty migrants told they will be sent to Rwanda

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61447106

I wonder what the level of support for this policy is like from the soft Tory voter.

[GNU_Linux]

Too soft= not proposing taking passports & drivers licenses off of people for the heinous crime of doing ching.

[williemillersmoustache]

13 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said:

Too soft= not proposing taking passports & drivers licenses off of people for the heinous crime of doing ching.

Of all the mad shit the tories do (and supported by those spineless half - tory wetwipes in the remains of the Labour party) the persistence with the hard line, justice led response to drugs is amongst the least evidenced and the most damaging.

Fought for over half a century now, the war on drugs has killed millions, cost trillions and achieved nothing. Nothing at all.

 

[Wee-Bey]

This comes hot on the heels of this bed wetting shite from Labour.

 

[welshbairn]

4 hours ago, Detective Jimmy McNulty said:

This comes hot on the heels of this bed wetting shite from Labour.

 

It must be getting to be a dilemma about who to vote for in England, well if it wasn't for a few other issues along with outright hypocrisy in their actions when in power. 

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The calls for reform are cross-party too. Among the advocates is former Tory leader William Hague, who saw his once “zero tolerance” approach to drugs fall apart when a third of his Shadow Cabinet admitted taking drugs. Hague now backs the model operated by Portugal since 2001, which decriminalised minor drug offences without increasing overall drug use.

Shortly before he became an MP, a certain Boris Johnson complained on camera that the Labour Government criminalised recreational cannabis users. “I have some perfectly respectable neighbours – good bourgeois types – who, without giving the game away or naming them, whenever they are sitting in of an evening and have got nothing else to do, they roll up a spliff and quietly smoke it together… and yet they are in breach of the law for what they are doing,” he said.

 

[Antlion]

54 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It must be getting to be a dilemma about who to vote for in England, well if it wasn't for a few other issues along with outright hypocrisy in their actions when in power. 

 

Come on now, dear old Boris isn’t a hypocrite. He’s still fine with his friends and neighbours - good bourgeois types - indulging in class-A drugs until their septums collapse. It’s the peasants who deserve to have their passports taken away if they even give off a whiff of weed. Can’t have them aping their betters.

[Suspect Device]

4 hours ago, welshbairn said:

good bourgeois types

There is the problem in a nutshell. Rich folk should be able to do what they want but the proles need to be controlled.

[Albus Bulbasaur]

I'm enjoying the Andrew Neil show but the skits at the start are soul-crushingly unfunny. 

(Also Madeline Grant is such a wid, I'd risk it all) 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Albus Bulbasaur

[BFTD]

15 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Of all the mad shit the tories do (and supported by those spineless half - tory wetwipes in the remains of the Labour party) the persistence with the hard line, justice led response to drugs is amongst the least evidenced and the most damaging.

Fought for over half a century now, the war on drugs has killed millions, cost trillions and achieved nothing. Nothing at all.

Well, it's criminalised a hell of a lot of people that the ruling class don't like. Some might say that's the point.

Also, in America at least, it's been responsible for rounding up huge numbers of non-whites and putting them back into slave labour. That very definitely appears to have been the point.

[Duries Air Freshener]

14 minutes ago, Albus Bulbasaur said:

I'm enjoying the Andrew Neil show but the skits at the start are soul-crushingly unfunny. 

(Also Madeline Grant is such a wid, I'd risk it all) 

Agreed re: Madeline Grant.

[Clown Job]

19 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Of all the mad shit the tories do (and supported by those spineless half - tory wetwipes in the remains of the Labour party) the persistence with the hard line, justice led response to drugs is amongst the least evidenced and the most damaging.

Fought for over half a century now, the war on drugs has killed millions, cost trillions and achieved nothing. Nothing at all.

 

 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

6 hours ago, BFTD said:

Well, it's criminalised a hell of a lot of people that the ruling class don't like. Some might say that's the point.

Also, in America at least, it's been responsible for rounding up huge numbers of non-whites and putting them back into slave labour. That very definitely appears to have been the point.

Yep. "The House I Live In" is an absolutely devastating documentary on the subject. One of the creators (David Simon, iirc*)states early on that we are witnessing "a new Holocaust". Like you (probably), I immediately thought "hyperbole" - then the film proceeded to put all those not-so-fluffy ducks in a row, and I thought "fúck me, that country is going to go up with one massive bang one of these days". Overall, I was more reminded of Apartheid-era RSA, but still, a seriously fúcked up society. Absolutely essential watching.

 

*Writer of "The Wire", "The Corner", and "Treme", to name but a few of his credits. An opinion I respect. 

[Glen Sannox]

On 12/05/2022 at 13:36, oaksoft said:

You know what would bring me joy Whitey?

You posting something, anything,  in genuine good humour.

WRK is by a country mile, the most joyless drama Queen on this site.

[Albus Bulbasaur]

53 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said:

WRK is by a country mile, the most joyless drama Queen on this site.

In fairness I do think he can come across as abrasive but is often speaking from the heart and makes some good posts. He's at least sincere and usually engages with the discussion on some level more often than not. 

[DMCs]

2 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Yep. "The House I Live In" is an absolutely devastating documentary on the subject. One of the creators (David Simon, iirc*)states early on that we are witnessing "a new Holocaust". Like you (probably), I immediately thought "hyperbole" - then the film proceeded to put all those not-so-fluffy ducks in a row, and I thought "fúck me, that country is going to go up with one massive bang one of these days". Overall, I was more reminded of Apartheid-era RSA, but still, a seriously fúcked up society. Absolutely essential watching.

 

*Writer of "The Wire", "The Corner", and "Treme", to name but a few of his credits. An opinion I respect. 

He's making a new program btw. David Simon I mean. 

Something to do with a rogue Baltimore cop unit that basically behaved like gangsters.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

7 hours ago, DMCs said:

He's making a new program btw. David Simon I mean. 

Something to do with a rogue Baltimore cop unit that basically behaved like gangsters.

Yeah, it's called "We own This City" and is,as you say, set in Baltimore - George Pelecanos collaborating again. I've watched the first episode (just "found" it - its on HBO over there), and it looks like it could well be up to his usual standard. Looking forward to finding out.

[Arch Stanton]

My MP doesn't speak often at Westminster but when she does its worth listening to.

 

[Duries Air Freshener]

7 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

My MP doesn't speak often at Westminster but when she does its worth listening to.

 

What utter nonsense

Fascism

You wonder if she made up those lies herself, or was pushed into it by someone that dislikes her?

In either case, definitely not a good look.

Nearly the funniest thing I’ve witnessed in the commons, 2nd only to Hannah Bardell’s rap

 

[Dan Steele]

Is deflection, changing the subject and steering the conversation away from a very good piece of political speaking by Mhairi Black count as "whataboutery"? Asking for a friend

[carpetmonster]

1 hour ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

 

You wonder if she made up those lies herself, or was pushed into it by someone that dislikes her?

Please feel free to point out any lies she told. Be specific.