Enigma Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I think they should use Murrayfield but the sfa won't even consider it. Like to keep football money in football. Like to keep the money in the hands of the tax cheats and the team that have enough anyway. How can we make Scottish football better? Let's give the OF more money. Terrific idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Enigma said: Like to keep the money in the hands of the tax cheats and the team that have enough anyway. How can we make Scottish football better? Let's give the OF more money. Terrific idea. ^^^This. The SFA's attitude towards us Diddy Clubs is similar to society's towards the 3rd Kray sibling..... "I didn't know Ronnie & Reggie had a brother" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 On 7/20/2016 at 10:36, Hampden Diehard said: What happened when the Commonwealth Games came to Glasgow? Was a spanking new stadium built like in Manchester, or like in London for the Olympics? No; we just tarted up Hampden, and that's what we do up here. We don't invest in sports centrally, so all this nonsense about building this and building that is just fanciful dreaming. On 7/21/2016 at 23:03, HibeeJibee said: Tbf, the Commonwealth Games thing was completely sensible. Look at the white elephant that Meadowbank became, and it was on a much smaller scale. It made complete sense to temporarily alter Hampden (and it justified having kept the 'rounded' ends) than build an athletics stadium somewhere on the outskirts of Glasgow. Worth pointing out that the central budget we had for the Commonwealth Games was substantially lower than Manchester's. SportEngland got millions from the National Lottery for the Manchester CWG, but when it came to Glasgow's bid, all the money had already been allocated to the London Olympics. In fact, that Olympics took all the lottery funding that would have otherwise been allocated to hundreds of nationwide projects and events. Everyone else had to go short because London. The Scottish Government and Glasgow City Council had to plough loads of money in to (partially) address this shortfall. There certainly wasn't the funds available to build a new stadium! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 5 hours ago, milton75 said: Worth pointing out that the central budget we had for the Commonwealth Games was substantially lower than Manchester's. SportEngland got millions from the National Lottery for the Manchester CWG, but when it came to Glasgow's bid, all the money had already been allocated to the London Olympics. In fact, that Olympics took all the lottery funding that would have otherwise been allocated to hundreds of nationwide projects and events. Everyone else had to go short because London. The Scottish Government and Glasgow City Council had to plough loads of money in to (partially) address this shortfall. There certainly wasn't the funds available to build a new stadium! If the money had been available (which it wasn't as you pointed out), then like Manchester (and Sydney for that matter for the 2000 Olympics), then the stadium has the track removed and the ends re-modelled back to a traditional football/rugby dimensions. We had to do it on the cheap, and Hampden received a lick of paint and was then returned to the same poor, outdated layout. We didn't even have the option of tarting up the auld place and then afterwards re-modelling the ends into something more suited to its modern day usage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochSonsFan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The Millennium Stadium in Cardiff is the model that would most benefit Scottish sport. A single modern stadium that can be used for rugby and football. The stands are tight enough into the pitch that the atmosphere builds and spreads. The view is good and the noise transfers well from stand to pitch. What we have are 2 stadiums that are both flawed. Murrayfield is showing it's age. Hampden was poorly designed for the rebuild. Scottish sport should rip up both stadiums and build a single venue in a similar style to Cardiff's brilliant facility. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekorean Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 On 7/8/2017 at 04:53, BallochSonsFan said: The Millennium Stadium in Cardiff is the model that would most benefit Scottish sport. A single modern stadium that can be used for rugby and football. The stands are tight enough into the pitch that the atmosphere builds and spreads. The view is good and the noise transfers well from stand to pitch. What we have are 2 stadiums that are both flawed. Murrayfield is showing it's age. Hampden was poorly designed for the rebuild. Scottish sport should rip up both stadiums and build a single venue in a similar style to Cardiff's brilliant facility. Agreed. Tear down Murrayfield and build a new one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 10:08, thekorean said: Agreed. Tear down Murrayfield and build a new one. We're not playing national football in Edinburgh, ta. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 A new Murrayfield would be ideal. Good transport links and in the capital city. Hampden is just shite, terrible views and out the city centre. Yes it has history but we need to move on, also to get away from a Glasgow old firm centric toxic game. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Scotland, it's not even a country & as for "National Stadium", it's owned by Queens Park! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Lack of pubs in the vicinity. This is due to area being traditionally dry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmcleanscontacts Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hampden is terrible for watching football. Romantically it's obviously the home of Scottish Football but I'd gladly neber attend another Scotland game there if they decided to alternate between say Ibrox and Parkhead for bigger games and maybe Easter Road/Pittodrie for smaller friendlies etc.I do think too that when we won the Cup at Celtic Park it was somehow a better experience overall than it probably would have been at Hampden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 SFA start consultation into whether moving from Hampden will be beneficial, http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15512837.Hampden_Park_s_future_as_national_stadium_could_be_in_jeopardy/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Don't you just wish we had a stadium like this! Queens Park could have one pitch and the National team and cup finals be on the other. It will never happen but shows the gulf between the have and have not's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayhole Blue Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 On 11/08/2017 at 13:26, scottmcleanscontacts said: Hampden is terrible for watching football. Romantically it's obviously the home of Scottish Football but I'd gladly neber attend another Scotland game there if they decided to alternate between say Ibrox and Parkhead for bigger games and maybe Easter Road/Pittodrie for smaller friendlies etc. I do think too that when we won the Cup at Celtic Park it was somehow a better experience overall than it probably would have been at Hampden. Disagree. Have watched Scotland at both Hampden and Parkhead in recent times and Hampden was far better. Problem is, it depends where your seat is. The main stand at Hampden provides great views, the East and West understandably less so. For the games against England and Ireland I was in the Main Stand at Parkhead and ended up having to stand throughout both games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 16/06/2017 at 14:08, invergowrie arab said: The customer experience at Murrayfield shits all over hampden. The money making opportunities are much better too as you can have ten's of thousands eating and drinking within the grounds before kick off (although no doubt that would be knocked on head if football) Only downside I can think is probably behind scenes stuff. I'm sure on tour they said you needed that tunnel under the stand to meet UEFA regulations or something. Why I don't know. Murrayfield also doesn't have same office space but has much superior conference and hospitality facilities. Also SRU are utterly skint. I wouldn't be surprised if they wouldn't consider the SFA taking a share in the stadium. I'm afraid that claim doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLichtie86 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Said it before. But here goes.Either buy Hampden from Queens Park or sign a 50 year lease with them and Queens Park play at Lesser Hampden (with special dispensation for big games to be played at Hampden ie Cup games against big teams)If its a lease then Lesser Hampden should be redeveloped further to be a great wee ground.Then once Queens Park are in Lesser Hampden, TEAR DOWN HAMPDEN PARK!Rebuild it so the stands are very close to the pitch by ripping out the running track. Have commercial boxes in the North and South stands to generate extra revenue, East and West stands 2 tiered and compact so punters are not a mile from the pitch in furthest away seats.At the same time huge efforts need to made by the local and scots governments to improve transport links to Hampden. However that may happen.Will cost a lot to do it. But its worth it rather than playing at Celtic Park, Ibrox or Murrayfueld. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Re-modelling the West and East stands and removing the track is really the only viable way of improving Hampden without starting from scratch, which wont happen. 60k capacity should be the aim but not sure if that’s possible within the available footprint. Out with the South Stand it really is an ageing stadium, and there really needs to be serious discussion with all interested parties inc the Scottish Govt on what the future for Hampden is going to be, it’s no good the SFA just saying “we’re off” and it just sitting there rotting. It’s just under 3 years to Euro2020, start the debate now and have a solid plan in place for after the tournament, otherwise it’s a swansong for Hampden when it comes to hosting major games such as CL and Europa League Finals. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just been to watch Queens Pk v Raith at Hampden today. 20 minute wait for food. The toilets had only two shitters, one of which didn't lock. Farce of a place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 16:34, Burnie_man said: start the debate now and have a solid plan in place for after the tournament, otherwise it’s a swansong for Hampden when it comes to hosting major games such as CL and Europa League Finals. It's now too small for Champions League finals I believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The problem with flattening the East and West Stands is that they hold over 25,000 seats between them. Building two stands of 13,000 each on the current footprint partly dug into the ground with a steeper rake would be very difficult and costly. For comparison, the RDS at Pittodrie holds around 6200 and the stands behind the goals at Ibrox hold around 8000 each. The two stands behind the goals at Celtic Park hold 13,000 each but that includes the corners of both tiers which wouldn't fit in at Hampden. To avoid reducing the capacity significantly you would have to either have a shallow rake for the stands behind the goals or expand the North Stand, which may not be possible given the housing behind it. I don't see how it would be feasible, unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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