eliphas Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Vietnam91 said: To give a bit of context here and maybe explain why it needed to be done. McMahon stood up at the 2022 AGM and went on about the hole that needed plugged due to the perfect storm trinity we've all been exposed to so often. At the time I am sure £300,000k was the figure used as the hole (now £750k). The unique way the club has evolved, the brand, the community and social outreach, the family element, hard working town, down on luck and the non sectarian stuff was all highlighted that would be something they hoped a company or individual would like to align with. Fast forward to AGM 2023. Jim gives almost the same presentation word for word. Upon finishing and opening to the floor I said words (and I paraphrase from memory) "Jim, that's pretty much was you said a year ago, if this funding gap is so significant and way in excess of the 100k we are saving on the pitch now, why has nothing been done?". Jim held his hands up and apologised saying that the ball had been dropped and eyes taken off the ball by other issues. Simply put, McMahon couldn't show up at the most recent one having said nothing has been done on this front for an additional year, he had to have something to show. The WS put out a request for extra's in late October so no doubt filmed shortly after and the club sat on it for two months awaiting a run of good results. When we couldn't buy a win in November or early December that didn't help the fact it all seemed to land simultaneously with announcements or Derek and Jim stepping back and a new WS board keen to kickstart things. The merits of the video's are up for debate, just, I dunno, if you have to do a 1 on 1 about the message the day after and allay fears, set the record straight, probably safe to say it didn't fully hit the brief. Derek said 4 people has been interviewed in the aftermath of Flow leaving and he'd never experienced a situation where all 4 were not available at the end of the process for various reasons. Fast forward to today and we have a new CEO starting imminently who has received almost universal praise from fans of his former clubs. In such an emotive business I'd say that's pretty rare so maybe that is one thing that has paid off for us in the long run. So aye, long and short is, the video's my fault .... sorry. Haha, fair play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Bevis captaining Uganda. Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, welldaft said: There are many owners of football clubs much bigger than Motherwell who have lost fortunes and continue to lose fortunes. With the notable exception of Fergus McCann is there anyone in Scottish Football who has walked away a richer man or woman having invested in a Scottish Football club. Genuinely I cannot think of one. Which is why I will repeat myself. If it is a return on investment you are after Bitcoin is probably a safer option. In fact I would put a casino up there as offering a better chance of a one off windfall. If however you are a wealthy individual and want to waste / spend some money on a plaything before you depart this world - then football clubs are right up there it would appear. Sure but at the AGM it was said that those in discussions were viewing this as an entrepreneurial enterprise to make money. The language used by everyone - from those in the AGM to those on Twitter - is investor not benefactor. All kinds of people are demanding investors and they'd be well minded to know the difference. I'd absolutely love some generous idiot to hand us cash but this is 100% not what is being discussed ATM. Which is why I'm calling bullshit on it just now and questioning everyone who blindly says we have a 750k deficit, we need an investor... they're talking nonsense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RostokMcSpoons Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, capt_oats said: Bevis captaining Uganda. Good for him. Oops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Eric Nicolson back writing about Theo Bair again is it? This definitely isn’t a reply to the wee bit of content we put out with the big man eh? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 That guy is a moron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 9 hours ago, RostokMcSpoons said: Oops I'd never heard of Comoros so looked it up. This isn't the scoreline I was expecting against a small group of islands with a population of less than 1m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: That guy is a moron It's weird right? It's like of McGarry spending his time writing follow up pieces on whoever our version of Theo Bair is? It just doesn't really happen. In fact, who is our Theo Bair equivalent? Someone who we invested a bunch of money in, was a bust but went on to be prolific at their first season at their new club? We've had plenty of obvious busts but folk like Fletcher, Blyth, Manzinga, Fisher, Sloth or whoever either didn't get anywhere near the number of appearances for us that Bair did for Saints or didn't end up doing anything at their next club (or in the case of some both). Edited March 23 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrics Mighty Well Army Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 21/03/2024 at 11:01, Alanos said: Offside - You are only offside if there’s a clear visible gap between attacker and defender. IFAB currently discussing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 22 minutes ago, capt_oats said: In fact, who is our Theo Bair equivalent? Someone who we invested a bunch of money in, was a bust but went on to be prolific at their first season at their new club? I'm really struggling to think of any. In recent years at least, there are a few players who have gone on to become passable Premiership level, or lower, players (Liam Donnelly, Dom Thomas, Steven Lawless), but none that feel like a missed opportunity. It's been far more common we've got the best out of players who then go elsewhere and tank (James Scott, Jake Hastie, Paul Slane, John Sutton). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrics Mighty Well Army Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Catching up having had a day on the giggle-water (again) yesterday. I'm very far from being an admirer of the DCSHBs but thank duck Spittal didn't go to St. Mirren, Kilmarnock, Dundee Utd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, Cedrics Mighty Well Army said: IFAB currently discussing this. It won't take away any controversy in VAR decisions, just change the rules the technology measures to. Don't see the point to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 39 minutes ago, capt_oats said: It's weird right? It's like of McGarry spending his time writing follow up pieces on whoever our version of Theo Bair is? It just doesn't really happen. In fact, who is our Theo Bair equivalent? Someone who we invested a bunch of money in, was a bust but went on to be prolific at their first season at their new club? We've had plenty of obvious busts but folk like Fletcher, Blyth, Manzinga, Fisher, Sloth or whoever either didn't get anywhere near the number of appearances for us that Bair did for Saints or didn't end up doing anything at their next club (or in the case of some both). I'd forgot Manzinga even existed. He seems to have carved out a half decent career for himself. Currently playing in the K-League so fair play to him. Would Mandron be in with a shout of our Theo Bair award? Was a bit of a donkey with us (albeit got a couple of goals) yet I feel like St Mirren fans really like him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 hours ago, Handsome_Devil said: Sure but at the AGM it was said that those in discussions were viewing this as an entrepreneurial enterprise to make money. The language used by everyone - from those in the AGM to those on Twitter - is investor not benefactor. All kinds of people are demanding investors and they'd be well minded to know the difference. I'd absolutely love some generous idiot to hand us cash but this is 100% not what is being discussed ATM. Which is why I'm calling bullshit on it just now and questioning everyone who blindly says we have a 750k deficit, we need an investor... they're talking nonsense. I am not disagreeing. In fact I am agreeing . All I am just saying (for the umpteenth time) I am not sure why anyone thinks they can come in and make a return from buying into Motherwell football club when countless others have tried with many different, bigger and more attractive clubs and failed miserably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: Eric Nicolson back writing about Theo Bair again is it? This definitely isn’t a reply to the wee bit of content we put out with the big man eh? Me @ everything Nicholson writes about us: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: Would Mandron be in with a shout of our Theo Bair award? Was a bit of a donkey with us (albeit got a couple of goals) yet I feel like St Mirren fans really like him. I considered mentioning Mandron but other than that wee purple patch earlier in the season I don't think he's really done much. Certainly not a redemption arc on the trajectory of Theo Bair's. All things being equal, would we be better off with Mandron over Obika? Yes. Am I bothered we didn't keep him? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, fat_tony said: I considered mentioning Mandron but other than that wee purple patch earlier in the season I don't think he's really done much. Certainly not a redemption arc on the trajectory of Theo Bair's. All things being equal, would we be better off with Mandron over Obika? Yes. Am I bothered we didn't keep him? No. Aye to me the version of Mandron that St Mirren have isn't that far off the one we saw IMO. I mean, yes there was a fair amount of point and laugh at them signing him but broadly he was kind of fine for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 14 hours ago, capt_oats said: Bevis captaining Uganda. Good for him. I see you can't even have a Ugandan defender without St Mirren copying it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Gordon comes across as pretty well there but I still find the premise of the article a bit bizarre. I assume its part of a bigger interview than just "I know it's an international break Liam, but here- wasn't Theo Bair shite?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, welldaft said: I am not disagreeing. In fact I am agreeing . All I am just saying (for the umpteenth time) I am not sure why anyone thinks they can come in and make a return from buying into Motherwell football club when countless others have tried with many different, bigger and more attractive clubs and failed miserably. No worries, I wasn't meaning you in particular, it just happened yours was the comment which sparked my latest rant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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