capt_oats Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Not getting my hopes up either but then again Tam Aldred was apparently shite and a fraud when he arrived and Charlie Dunne was apparently awful as well so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #welcomeJake Also @Al B They got the Scott one in the SOTM (cheers lads). Not as good as Tait's but A+ for effort from the young man. Edited April 29, 2019 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Pie Of The Month said: Hopefully he's improved in the 5 years since he was with us. Did we not bin him early? I can’t remember anything about his time with us whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just now, jagfox99 said: Did we not bin him early? I can’t remember anything about his time with us whatsoever. I think so, he was that unmemorable I searched him on here and other than a few mentions of him being shite the only noteworthy thing about him was @Fuctifano included him in his club's biggest jobbers XI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) It's not just me tbf https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?/search/&q=jake carroll&page=1 has some choice cuts. Spoiler etc Slacker's post rings a bell, his positional sense was dreadful, I remember one game away to Accies where he seemed to want to play CB or CM despite the fact he was playing LB and the entire Accies right flank had oceans of space. Suppose it's 5 years on and players can improve... The main twist here is he was our replacement for ATS, which means Motherwell can look forward to Callum Booth in 2020 then, eh, Stevie Lawless coming back in around 2022. Edited April 29, 2019 by Fuctifano 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Tbf Caley fans said the same about Aldred. They were wrong. What a player is like with one club doesn't mean he'll be the same with another. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Aldred was a 21 year old centre back. This guy is 28 and looks like he is a going to fit right in with Gary Bollan, Tony Straker, Danny Murphy and Aaron Taylor Sinclair as another complete dud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Enjoying the reaction to the new signing, great to see us getting our scapegoat business done early this year 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Aldred was a 21 year old centre back. This guy is 28 and looks like he is a going to fit right in with Gary Bollan, Tony Straker, Danny Murphy and Aaron Taylor Sinclair as another complete dud. I take it you've seen him play? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand 2 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I recall Carroll having possibly the worst debut that I've seen - he looked completely out of position...which actually transpired to be the case somewhat; despite us signing him as a left back, he'd played quite a bit as a holding midfielder in Ireland. Can't say I've kept track of his career terribly closely since. To perhaps give further context to the level that he's been playing at, Ade Azeez and David Amoo are his team-mates at Cambridge and appear to be first picks, when fit; two guys with the physical attributes of a 100m sprinter...and the footballing prowess to match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Aldred was a 21 year old centre back. This guy is 28 and looks like he is a going to fit right in with Gary Bollan, Tony Straker, Danny Murphy and Aaron Taylor Sinclair as another complete dud. You're probably right of course but Aldred was also 27 when he signed and Bury fans would happily have driven him up and seemingly still can't comprehend how he's been a success (other than it being a tinpot league where all their Nans could score). Edited April 30, 2019 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: This guy is 28 and looks like he is a going to fit right in with Gary Bollan, Tony Straker, Danny Murphy and Aaron Taylor Sinclair as another complete dud. That's the spirit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Long live Stevie Hammell's cursed amulet! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) A Thistle supporting pal described Carroll to me last night as "Average-poor, a slightly less injury prone ATS". So that's exciting. In honesty it sounds like for like with ATS, a squad player who's a natural left back without the knees made of wet cardboard. It allows Tait to revert back to RB but isn't necessarily going to block Livingstone getting in the side. It might even mean Livingstone can get a 6 month loan or something with Tait still an option for LB. I mean, going by the reviews from Cambridge fans it's a pretty fucking low bar for Livingstone to clear if he wants to get in the first team. Having had a nose about Hartlepool's forum while it's hardly glowing there are a few "there's a player there", "had ability"-type posts going on re: Carroll. Edit: By my count, based on the players we've got contracted this leaves us about 6 bodies short (5 if Fané signs up) and tbh I still don't have a clue where Donnelly's supposed to fit. GK: Gillespie / Carson / Ferguson RB: Tait / Grimshaw CB: Gallagher / Maguire / (Donnelly) CB: Dunne / Hartley LB: Carroll / Livingstone CM: Campbell / ? CM: ? / ? CM: Turnbull / Polworth FW: ? / Semple FW: Scott / Johnson FW: ? / ? Edited April 30, 2019 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Superwell Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: A Thistle supporting pal described Carroll to me last night as "Average-poor, a slightly less injury prone ATS". So that's exciting. In honesty it sounds like for like with ATS, a squad player who's a natural left back without the knees made of wet cardboard. It allows Tait to revert back to RB but isn't necessarily going to block Livingstone getting in the side. It might even mean Livingstone can get a 6 month loan or something with Tait still an option for LB. I mean, going by the reviews from Cambridge fans it's a pretty fucking low bar for Livingstone to clear if he wants to get in the first team. Having had a nose about Hartlepool's forum while it's hardly glowing there are a few "there's a player there", "had ability"-type posts going on re: Carroll. Edit: By my count, based on the players we've got contracted this leaves us about 6 bodies short (5 if Fané signs up) and tbh I still don't have a clue where Donnelly's supposed to fit. GK: Gillespie / Carson / Ferguson RB: Tait / Grimshaw CB: Gallagher / Maguire / (Donnelly) CB: Dunne / Hartley LB: Carroll / Livingstone CM: Campbell / ? CM: ? / ? CM: Turnbull / Polworth FW: ? / Semple FW: Scott / Johnson FW: ? / ? Donnelly can also play at right back and actually played as a holding midfielder with Northern Irelands under 21 side, next season will be make or break for him with us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRoss Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I don't think Donnelly will be at Fir Park next season. That's not based on anything other than guesswork on my part, but it's never come across that Robinson has been pleased with his albeit limited contributions so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Del_Superwell said: Donnelly can also play at right back and actually played as a holding midfielder with Northern Irelands under 21 side, next season will be make or break for him with us. 22 minutes ago, AndyRoss said: I don't think Donnelly will be at Fir Park next season. That's not based on anything other than guesswork on my part, but it's never come across that Robinson has been pleased with his albeit limited contributions so far. Definitely. Even after a full season at the club it doesn't seem clear which of those positions we see him in which I think is (obviously) a problem. Pretty much every other player in the squad you can define their role. He's rarely even quoted by Robinson these days. Nothing against him, looking at his CV he ticks loads of the boxes of the type of player we'd look at and be happy to take a punt on: ex-Fulham, N.I u21 international & record appearances and captain, plenty of first team games in the lower leagues and of course he's versatile but for whatever reason he seems to be absolutely miles from the first team. Looking at the positions he plays he wouldn't get ahead of Tait or Grimshaw at RB nor would he get ahead of Gallagher at RCB and the fact he can play as a defensive mid seems more like an added bonus than where we planned on playing him. All that in mind he's made 8 starts this season, you can't really see next season being much different. Edited April 30, 2019 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I read a tweet on Friday night saying "Only Dejan Lovren could have a bad game in a 5-0 victory" and that instantly made me think of Liam Donnelly's performance against Edinburgh City. That night I thought he looked horrific and I'm sure he routinely passed the ball straight out for an Edinburgh shy twice. I can't say I've been enthused by anything I've seen since, albeit very limited. I think the writing is on the wall for him, as it is Hartley and probably Mbulu too. So we may need an extra centre back to go with Gallagher/Dunne/Maguire at that rate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe said: I read a tweet on Friday night saying "Only Dejan Lovren could have a bad game in a 5-0 victory" and that instantly made me think of Liam Donnelly's performance against Edinburgh City. That night I thought he looked horrific and I'm sure he routinely passed the ball straight out for an Edinburgh shy twice. I can't say I've been enthused by anything I've seen since, albeit very limited. I think the writing is on the wall for him, as it is Hartley and probably Mbulu too. So we may need an extra centre back to go with Gallagher/Dunne/Maguire at that rate. Hartley's always got his magic powder empire he can fall back on. Donnelly might be an alright player somewhere but I'm not sure we can afford to have a guy who is injured about 80% of the time. Mbulu is...ok? It's a small sample size and I wouldn't be heartbroken to see him go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Again. I'd be willing to guess Tait will play LB most of next season Edited April 30, 2019 by Busta Nut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Has Curtis Main bleached his hair btw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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