Bairnardo Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Have a word. It's clear the only current heavyweight who is up for beating Joshua now is Fury.I think Wilder v AJ is a 60/40 leaning towards Wilder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 The real Big Joe Joyce would take them all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 The real Big Joe Joyce would take them all. Petrol hands are on the WADA banned list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Hearn has now admitted he offered 60/40 to Wilder and Fury. Wilder’s team was always adamant it had to be 50/50 before they’d even enter in to talks so it’s a bit disingenuous for him to keep saying Wilder ducked AJ. AJ would be a much tougher fight for him now anyway with AJ showing he can be much more than a big muscly robot. Wilder said after the first Fury fight that he ignores his coaches’ advice in the ring as he was so scared to lose from following something other than his own instinct. The second fight was brilliant tactics from Fury’s team, just as AJ won his rematch by parking his ego and following his coach’s advice. Wilder firing the coach who he ignored anyway suggests to me he’s not going to change. Shame as with a few tweaks he could be the most devastating fighter around. AJ, loss has probably made him a better fighter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Sorry I’m not buying Fury beats AJ 99/100 there’s literally no way! He bullied what is practically a cruiserweight in Wilder in the second fight and outboxed him in the first l.... would he be able to bully AJ??? Absolutely not, can he put box him...yes!!! People go on about Fury as if he’s the modern day Ali, based on what exactly?? How many fights ( of elite level ) has fury looked good in.... 1? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Sorry I’m not buying Fury beats AJ 99/100 there’s literally no way! He bullied what is practically a cruiserweight in Wilder in the second fight and outboxed him in the first l.... would he be able to bully AJ??? Absolutely not, can he put box him...yes!!! People go on about Fury as if he’s the modern day Ali, based on what exactly?? How many fights ( of elite level ) has fury looked good in.... 1? I think it's a styles make fights thing tbh. Fury knows how to gas a fighter out and how not to get hit. His main drawback is probably a lack of power. AJ gasses, isnt exactly a sharpshooter and his questionable punch resistance pretty much negates that weakness of Tysons. I dont think AJ has the ring IQ or the stamina to out point Fury and if Wilder couldnt KO Fury over 2 fights, I dont really think AJ will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I think it's a styles make fights thing tbh. Fury knows how to gas a fighter out and how not to get hit. His main drawback is probably a lack of power. AJ gasses, isnt exactly a sharpshooter and his questionable punch resistance pretty much negates that weakness of Tysons. I dont think AJ has the ring IQ or the stamina to out point Fury and if Wilder couldnt KO Fury over 2 fights, I dont really think AJ will. The speed of his right hand is pretty good!! I have no doubts about fury being the better boxer but I can see the volume punching from AJ being a massive problem for Fury.... yes he got up from wilder but he never really landed anything prior!!! Imo wilder would pose more of a problem for AJ than fury, i think Usyk beats Fury and AJ stops Usyk! I just don’t see how how people can disregard AJs chances against Fury.... he’s been in with 2 big names and the rest are middle of the road! If Usyk develops at the weight he’s going to end up undisputed but there’s a lot of unknowns about him at the weight! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 The speed of his right hand is pretty good!! I have no doubts about fury being the better boxer but I can see the volume punching from AJ being a massive problem for Fury.... yes he got up from wilder but he never really landed anything prior!!! Imo wilder would pose more of a problem for AJ than fury, i think Usyk beats Fury and AJ stops Usyk! I just don’t see how how people can disregard AJs chances against Fury.... he’s been in with 2 big names and the rest are middle of the road! If Usyk develops at the weight he’s going to end up undisputed but there’s a lot of unknowns about him at the weight!How many big names has AJ been in with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 How many big names has AJ been in with? Big names or bigger than Fury? In the devision he has fought everyone apart from Fury or Wilder!!! 3rd biggest name on Fury’s record... Chisora, Cunningham, wallin?You have to look at AJ and what he’s achieved and who he’s fought, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, Povetkin, Klitschko, Pulev, Takham. He’s fought a better list of fighters on a consistent basis! Last night proved he’s evolving, had him hurt in the 3rd but didn’t press for a stoppage like he did in the Ruiz fight, he was patient boxed well and got the ko! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Fury will school AJ when they meet. Best heavyweight in division 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Again based on what??? He very well may be but until he beats AJ or AJ beats him then you can’t have a definitive answer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Big names or bigger than Fury? In the devision he has fought everyone apart from Fury or Wilder!!! 3rd biggest name on Fury’s record... Chisora, Cunningham, wallin?You have to look at AJ and what he’s achieved and who he’s fought, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, Povetkin, Klitschko, Pulev, Takham. He’s fought a better list of fighters on a consistent basis! Last night proved he’s evolving, had him hurt in the 3rd but didn’t press for a stoppage like he did in the Ruiz fight, he was patient boxed well and got the ko!How many big names though? Only one I would say is Klitschko and he was 40 year old and a good 18 month out the ring by that point.Imo opinion the rest are middle of the road type fighters but that's not wholly his fault as the division doesn't have a lot of depth. There isn't a name on his resume that Fury doesn't beat but jury is still out for on whether AJ could beat Wilder.Also as much as I like Usyk I dont see how he beats Fury to be honest but could see him beating AJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickoverayard Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 How many big names though? Only one I would say is Klitschko and he was 40 year old and a good 18 month out the ring by that point.Imo opinion the rest are middle of the road type fighters but that's not wholly his fault as the division doesn't have a lot of depth. There isn't a name on his resume that Fury doesn't beat but jury is still out for on whether AJ could beat Wilder.Also as much as I like Usyk I dont see how he beats Fury to be honest but could see him beating AJPeople tend to forget why he was out the ring for 18months!! I’m not sure if AJ beats wilder but his style not gives him a much better chance! Yes I agree it’s not a lightweight devision with a list of top top fighters but it is what it is and within the weight class AJ still has fought the better fighters of that devision.... Fury has that 1 big win! I honestly feel the other way, Usyk has to be the only boxer who would outsmart and outbox fury!! It’s all opinion tho...just hope the fight happens 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Fury looked great fighting on the inside against Wilder but Wilder has zero inside game and Fury got a bit lucky with the illegal punch that burst Wilder's ear. I don't see Fury fighting inside with AJ, he struggled with Wallin. I think Fury would fight from distance and force AJ to come to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Joshua looked very chin shy last night after the Ortiz loss I'd give Joyce an ok chance against him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Detournement said: Fury looked great fighting on the inside against Wilder but Wilder has zero inside game and Fury got a bit lucky with the illegal punch that burst Wilder's ear. I don't see Fury fighting inside with AJ, he struggled with Wallin. I think Fury would fight from distance and force AJ to come to him. His ear wasn't burst, it was a cut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Joshua splatters Fury all over the London Tower Bridge. Tyson's da (John Lambies da) cries relentlessly for a week and offer AJ out at every opportunity. Mike Tyson appears and sparkle JLD who in turn, goes on Take Me Out and puts Paddy McGuinness in a bear hug because he believes he's Paddy Doherty's illegitimate son. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Joshua splatters Fury all over the London Tower Bridge. Tyson's da (John Lambies da) cries relentlessly for a week and offer AJ out at every opportunity. Mike Tyson appears and sparkle JLD who in turn, goes on Take Me Out and puts Paddy McGuinness in a bear hug because he believes he's Paddy Doherty's illegitimate son. I don't understand a word of the above, but it's still better and less harrowing than oasksoft's generic porn script. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Watched Verdejo - Nakatani last night, great fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Be hoping for the Teofimo rematch I'd imagine, stranger things have happened 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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