TavTastic Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 14.5 compared to 13 points at this stage last season. Pretty decent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, TavTastic said: 14.5 compared to 13 points at this stage last season. Pretty decent. If Celtic and Rangers get any where near the 27.0 from last season it would be a massive boost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Celtic and Rangers get any where near the 27.0 from last season it would be a massive boost. 3 points minimum in the playoff round then we will need 10 points to beat last year. That's 5 wins between the two sides. Last year Scottish teams got 11 points in the group stages (4 wins and 3 draws). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda8 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hate to pish in your chips but be surprised if either team gets to group stage. Hope I’m wrong though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 More poor results for the Czechs and Danes. Unlikely to be catchable this year but every dropped point will help somewhere down the line. Denmark maybe catchable if Copenhagen fall apart in Latvia? Probably the only way to get 15th imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hate to pish in your chips but be surprised if either team gets to group stage. Hope I’m wrong though I think both will be bookies' favourites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda8 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I think Celtic were bookies favorites this week but still got beat. legia schooled Celtic home & away a few years back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 A combination of OF fans and 'Scotland' ones hoping for an improved coefficient. At least the OF ones are being honest. They disgust me marginally less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The higher the coefficient the easier it will be to attract better players, sponsorship deals, TV deals etc Thats got to be good for all teams surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: A combination of OF fans and 'Scotland' ones hoping for an improved coefficient. At least the OF ones are being honest. They disgust me marginally less. Legia is a hard one, They are ranked 75 in Europe by UEFA while Rangers are ranked 206. They again the previous Danish opponents were ranked 103 places and Rangers disposed of them easily. Legia have qualified a few times for the group stages so I'm sure they are expecting to beat Rangers. Aik Stockholm haven't been in the group stages since12/13 season and last reached the third round 14/15. Uefa expect Aberdeen to be beaten as they were 203 ranked while Rijka was 70 odds ranked. If Rangers and Celtic get through, no matter who they get in their group Id expect both to get a few wins to bring their points total and even, (stuff it, I'll say it), make it beyond the group stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, thepundit said: The higher the coefficient the easier it will be to attract better players, sponsorship deals, TV deals etc Thats got to be good for all teams surely? Incontestably bad for nearly all clubs. Next... Edited August 16, 2019 by Monkey Tennis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: Incontestably bad for nearly all clubs. Next... I'm starting to enjoy your posts money have a greenie. If Celtic and rangers get to the group stages there will be 2 CL places in two years. Keep moaning and groaning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 hours ago, Ginaro said: Update after this week's games. Close to moving up another spot, if Cluj hadn't scored that late goal then we'd be in 18th. Fortunately we still have a decent chance of getting two teams into the EL group stage, which will be needed if we are to move up further and possibly fight for 15th. 13 Czech Republic 7.300 5.500 5.500 6.500 0.900 25.700 +0.200 CL PO 14 Denmark 5.500 8.500 5.250 4.875 1.375 25.500 +0.125 EL PO 15 Cyprus 3.000 5.500 7.000 6.125 3.250 24.875 +0.500 CL PO + EL PO 16 Greece 5.400 5.800 5.100 5.100 2.100 23.500 +0.500 CL PO + 2 EL PO 17 Croatia 4.500 5.125 5.125 5.750 1.875 22.375 +0.500 CL PO + EL PO 18 Serbia 4.250 2.875 6.375 6.000 2.375 21.875 +0.125 CL PO + EL PO 19 Scotland 3.000 4.375 4.000 6.750 3.625 21.750 +0.250 2 EL PO 20 Norway 7.250 1.375 4.000 5.375 3.250 21.250 +0.375 CL PO + EL PO 21 Switzerland 5.300 4.300 6.500 3.900 0.600 20.600 +0 CL PO + 2 EL GS While I see after this most people are staying positive and looking ahead. It might be time to worry about dropping from last year's final ranking of 20th. Switzerland are guaranteed three group stage teams and Norway will have at least one team make a group stage. Then Sweden back in 22nd could get AIK and Malmo in the Europa League groups as well, which would mean Celtic would of been knocked out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Yoda8 said: I think Celtic were bookies favorites this week but still got beat. legia schooled Celtic home & away a few years back That was 5 years ago - I'm not sure how relevant that is going to be with a completely different group of players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: While I see after this most people are staying positive and looking ahead. It might be time to worry about dropping from last year's final ranking of 20th. Switzerland are guaranteed three group stage teams and Norway will have at least one team make a group stage. Then Sweden back in 22nd could get AIK and Malmo in the Europa League groups as well, which would mean Celtic would of been knocked out. While that is a possibility, with the new competition coming for 2021/22 it doesn't matter whether we stay 20th or drop down as 18th-28th all get the same deal in the access list. Our 2015/16 score is the lowest in the top 22 so we'll move up to start next season in 15th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: That was 5 years ago - I'm not sure how relevant that is going to be with a completely different group of players. I've been talking to some Legia fans on Twitter and they all say that their team now is behind that team that beat Celtic. Plus they're not convinced by their current manager. Still a tricky test though where the away leg needs to be about composure in a tough environment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Ginaro said: While that is a possibility, with the new competition coming for 2021/22 it doesn't matter whether we stay 20th or drop down as 18th-28th all get the same deal in the access list. It doesn't change the qualifying process but a drop means we're either worse or those around us are improving. So it does matter if the aim is to 15th for the additional European spot. 3 hours ago, Ginaro said: Our 2015/16 score is the lowest in the top 22 so we'll move up to start next season in 15th. On current standing Scotland would be 16th and there's still a lot of football to be played in the 2019/20 season so it could be lower. And other than Sweden everyone else is guaranteed more chances to pick up points than us. The most extreme example being Switzerland that have 20 games to play at a minimum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On current standing Scotland would be 16th and there's still a lot of football to be played in the 2019/20 season so it could be lower. And other than Sweden everyone else is guaranteed more chances to pick up points than us. The most extreme example being Switzerland that have 20 games to play at a minimum.Those rankings are different from the kassiesa ones. The points match I think but there's a bunch of teams missing. It has Scotland as 15th for 16/17 - 20/21 seasons so far too.https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/crank2021.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, charger29 said: Those rankings are different from the kassiesa ones. The points match I think but there's a bunch of teams missing. It has Scotland as 15th for 16/17 - 20/21 seasons so far too.https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/crank2021.html I was only looking at 15-22 so missed Czech Republic dropping from 13th below Scotland. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, charger29 said: Those rankings are different from the kassiesa ones. The points match I think but there's a bunch of teams missing. It has Scotland as 15th for 16/17 - 20/21 seasons so far too.https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/crank2021.html Falling out of the top 20 certainly looks more difficult to do. However, the Czech Republic, Greece, Croatia, Serbia and Switzerland are highlighted as the best bets to surpass Scotland's current ranking. If both Celtic and Rangers get knocked out in the play-offs then Scotland should at least stay in 20th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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