Ginaro Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Tonight's win and draw takes us to 4.000 for the season, meaning we equal the score that dropped off in 2014/15. Just a draw away from Serbia in 18th. https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2020.html Looks like there will be CL bonus points for Czech Republic, Greece, Croatia, and one of Switzerland/Serbia. That might all be Greece have though, as AEK lost 1-3 at home and PAOK lost 1-0 away. Israel will lose both teams as well. A decent chance it'll just be Scotland, Serbia, and Switzerland with more than one group stage team in this battle for 15th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavTastic Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 16 points at the moment which is the same as we had after QR4 was finished last year. Edited August 23, 2019 by TavTastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Well done to Celtic tonight for protecting our coefficent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Do we lose coefficient points if the ***s keep singing about ******s? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Fantastic results from both Celtic and Rangers tonight and even better to know that both teams from Greece and both from Israel were put out tonight as well as the Cyprus team. A good nights work indeed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/crank2020.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssdon Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Good week for the coefficient, just wish Aberdeen were there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor1874 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Depending on the EL draw today, Scotland has a pretty good chance of overtaking Serbia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Copenhagen struggling through against Riga is pretty much the end of 15th for this season imo. I think Olympiacos will at worst get 3rd in their CL group (maybe push the top two as well) taking 15th out of reach.Would need to reach the quarters or something now to have any chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLichtie86 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Copenhagen struggling through against Riga is pretty much the end of 15th for this season imo. I think Olympiacos will at worst get 3rd in their CL group (maybe push the top two as well) taking 15th out of reach.Would need to reach the quarters or something now to have any chance.Its probably for the best we avoid getting 15th too quickly. Use this season to get us in a good position to go for it next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Its probably for the best we avoid getting 15th too quickly. Use this season to get us in a good position to go for it next season.With this being the season that determines the ranking table for the new 3 tier format, I'd say getting 15th as early as possible is important. Something doesn't seem quite right with the way UEFA have set it up for 2021-2024. Unless my maths are wrong 15th place will get up to 10 opportunities for their clubs to reach the group stages of European competition and 16th will only get up to 6.Right now it's 7 for 15th and 5 for 16th. That seems too much of an increase for 15th or better teams. If you don't get into 15th early on in this new competition you're in a hole imo. Seems quite easy to be left behind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/crank2020.html Czech Republic are gone however depending on the draw I think we still have a chance of 15th with the extra team, this is how far behind we are: Denmark - 6.5 wins Greece, Cyprus - 5 wins Croatia - 2.5 wins Serbia - 2 wins, but they also have two teams The three behind us need the following number of wins to catch us: Norway - 2.5 wins Switzerland - 5 wins, but they have three teams Sweden - 4 wins We got 6.5 wins last season, and Rangers arguably could've got more, so if those ahead don't have a good campaign we might catch them. 15 minutes ago, charger29 said: With this being the season that determines the ranking table for the new 3 tier format, I'd say getting 15th as early as possible is important. Something doesn't seem quite right with the way UEFA have set it up for 2021-2024. Unless my maths are wrong 15th place will get up to 10 opportunities for their clubs to reach the group stages of European competition and 16th will only get up to 6. Right now it's 7 for 15th and 5 for 16th. That seems too much of an increase for 15th or better teams. If you don't get into 15th early on in this new competition you're in a hole imo. Seems quite easy to be left behind. 16th might be useful to get, as although there's no extra team, with the redistribution due to the CL/EL winners 16th is likely to still get an EL place. Someone's put it all together in a spreadsheet, look for Croatia in the teams tab and see where their teams go: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=FB41E3B5AA1A44FE!783&ithint=file%2cxlsx&authkey=!AKwCfyd6ErlBx4s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Ginaro said: 16th might be useful to get, as although there's no extra team, with the redistribution due to the CL/EL winners 16th is likely to still get an EL place. Someone's put it all together in a spreadsheet, look for Croatia in the teams tab and see where their teams go: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=FB41E3B5AA1A44FE!783&ithint=file%2cxlsx&authkey=!AKwCfyd6ErlBx4s You're right about 16th. 15th and 17+ would have been a better comparison. 15th gets a 67% increase in opportunities to reach GS, 16th probably gets 40% increase and 17-51 get a 20% increase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Was going to work out many wins we're behind each country but someone has already done it: Of those ahead of us seems like APOEL have the best chance of picking up wins, with Qarabag and F91 Dudelange in their EL group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Top 15 is more important next year due to the introduction of the third UEFA tournament. Dundee will be the fifth team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) One win behind Serbia after tonight - Red Star have a tough CL group but Partizan probably will get points against Astana. Two wins behind Croatia - Zagreb have Man City away next but will fancy themselves against Shaktar and Atalanta again. Three wins (and a bit) behind Cyprus - APOEL got beat by F91 Dudelange and also have Sevilla, but should get something against Qarabag. So our chances of getting to 16th have increased, and Switzerland have to get six wins to overtake us. Edited September 19, 2019 by Ginaro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 One win behind Serbia after tonight - Red Star have a tough CL group but Partizan probably will get points against Astana. Two wins behind Croatia - Zagreb have Man City away next but will fancy themselves against Shaktar and Atalanta again. Three wins (and a bit) behind Cyprus - APOEL got beat by F91 Dudelange and also have Sevilla, but should get something against Qarabag. So our chances of getting to 16th have increased, and Switzerland have to get six wins to overtake us.At the beginning of the season I didn't think we really had a chance of getting above 19th place. However at this stage, 5 of the countries ahead of us only have 1 team, some of which are definitely within touching distance. I still think 15th would be a stretch for this season (not outwith the realms of possibility though), but is definitely a realistic aim for next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssdon Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Good night for the Scottish teams last night, should have been 2 wins but cant complain at a win and a draw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 From what I seen last night I would expect both Basel and YB to pick up enough points that they will make it through the group stages. If Rangers can improve a bit they might get something from YB but I would be surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I watched both games last night and was impressed with what I saw. Rennes are a solid outfit with some players who will undoubtedly move on to bigger clubs, but they didn’t look a level above Celtic at all, who I thought managed the game perfectly and on another day could have won that game. Was very impressed with Rangers who should have won that game by 3 or 4 goals. I know Feyenoord aren’t the team they were last season but still encouraging signs as Rangers completely outplayed them, although the score line didn’t show that. As much as I’m not Morelos’ biggest fan, I thought he was outstanding last night. He turned the Feyenoord defenders almost every time and for a man of his build his strength against the defenders is unreal. Not sure of his contract situation at Rangers but there has got to be big teams taking a look at him, as he seems to have cut out the petulant nonsense this season, so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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