Antiochas III Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Mexican-American War. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I was trying to figure out what "wars" he would have been involved in, too. Killed spics, injuns and ni**er lovin yankees. Edited August 13, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Antiochas III said: The worst thing is the reason they supposedly rallied isn't a bad one. The destruction of the statues of Robert E. Lee is a disgrace. Yes he was a Confederate General, but he was that only because the Commonwealth of Virgina joined the Confederation of States. He did not agree with the break up of the US. He was also a US war hero before and after the Civil War. When the US Government was pushing to punish Confederate sympathisers his name was always on the exemption list. West Point even has a barracks named after him. If were to destroy statues of anyone who did something bad or fought for something questionable then pretty sure almost all historic figures who have statues across the world will require to be removed. 22 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: Mexican-American War. So just a war hero before the Civil War, then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) No he didn't lose the tag after the Civil War. Even in the North. But then again if we are to do away with statues of people who either sold, bought or owned slaves then Grant (the famed Union Commander) and pretty much most of all presidents before Lincoln (who would have not stoped the owning of slaves if he thought he could get away with it) owned more slaves than Lee. In fact Lee's wife was instrumental of helping former slaves escape, many to Liberia. He also helped finance his wife's school for slaves on his Plantation. Believe it or not, not everyone on both sides were either anti-slavery (if you fought for the Union) or pro-slavery (fought for the Confederates) Edited August 13, 2017 by Antiochas III 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I may be wrong but didn't Lincoln offer Lee command of the Union army. After much heart searching he declined because his was a southern state. I suppose it would be much like offering a Scot command of the English army if they were going to war. Not a great analogy I know but the closest I could think of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, WILLIEA said: I may be wrong but didn't Lincoln offer Lee command of the Union army. After much heart searching he declined because his was a southern state. I suppose it would be much like offering a Scot command of the English army if they were going to war. Not a great analogy I know but the closest I could think of. It would be a bit like offering an Irish republican the post of Deputy First Minister in a partionist Stormont. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: It would be a bit like offering an Irish republican the post of Deputy First Minister in a partionist Stormont. That's possibly a better analogy. I do get the impression that American history is being altered and distorted to suit 21st century agendas. Has probably ever been thus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Good Guardian article here. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2017/aug/13/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-and-racism-a-moral-failure-that-shames-america Matters not if it's the USA or the UK. The rise of the far right will ALWAYS signal a rise in hatred intolerance and violence. Where the US leads, Britain follows. We're simply 2 or 3 steps behind them at this time. I despair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It's a bit ironic that 70 odd years after the end of WW2 Germany appears to be the voice of reason and moderation in the west! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 It's a bit ironic that 70 odd years after the end of WW2 Germany appears to be the voice of reason and moderation in the west! There was a story earlier of an American tourist in Germany throwing out a Nazi salute.He got the shit kicked out of him by some locals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, mjw said: There was a story earlier of an American tourist in Germany throwing out a Nazi salute. He got the shit kicked out of him by some locals. Quite right too. If they want to make Nazi salutes let them make them in their own country where they belong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 hours ago, EdgarusQPFC said: "Regarding that neo nazi twat that was punched, i totally see both sides of it, hes totally the kinda guy who would deserve a punch, but its pathetic to resort to violence." Yer da opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, mjw said: There was a story earlier of an American tourist in Germany throwing out a Nazi salute. He got the shit kicked out of him by some locals. Washington Post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I'm all for free speech in most cases but stopping anything that celebrates the Nazis is more important to me than protecting the freedom of speech of people with those views. What the Nazis did was so unbelievably abhorrent that the offence and harm celebrating them causes is more than the harm caused by prohibiting that part of freedom of speech. f**k Nazis, f**k anyone who supports the Nazis, does Nazi salutes, waves swastikas or sympathises with their world view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfishtrombone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Trump really is a c**t. He had the opportunity to condemn white nationalists and distance himself from them but chose not to alienate them because they say nice things about him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) Dunno if it's been mentioned here but a helicopter that was heading to the scene of the attack in Charlottesville crashed and the 2 states police on board died Edited August 13, 2017 by EdgarusQPFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Who would have thought that teenagers on 4chan could resurrect a dead political philosophy and troll America into voting for Trump, and place their Daddy Bannon in the Whitehouse at his ear. It was more than that obviously, but it wasn't the hard placed American worker laid off because of foreigners automation that sparked off the alt right cult, it was nerds who hated the fact that girls didn't like them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Who would have thought that teenagers on 4chan could resurrect a dead political philosophy and troll America into voting for Trump, and place their Daddy Bannon in the Whitehouse at his ear. It was more than that obviously, but it wasn't the hard placed American worker laid off because of foreigners automation that sparked off the alt right cult, it was nerds who hated the fact that girls didn't like them. Is 4chan not a website that does memes and other young people stuff I don't really understand? What have they got to do with Trump? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pandarilla Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Dunno if it's been mentioned here but a helicopter that was heading to the scene of the attack in Charlottesville crashed and the 2 states police on board died Was there any more to this? Crazy militia folk take it down did they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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