Jmothecat2 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Nazis attacking people with torches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, mjw said: At least shilarry didn't win. Emails and things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Meanwhile, from the past: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Good to see Trump condemning the, erm, many sides displaying hatred and bigotry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Trump and trumpfox news struggling tonight.They didn't struggle as much when calling out Obama for not saying 'radical islam' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 To call this anything other than a terrorist incident would be ridiculous, absolutely disgusting scene's today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's at least comforting in all this to see that Richard Spencer feels safe enough to leave the house. Oh wait. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Good to see Trump condemning the, erm, many sides displaying hatred and bigotry It's like Corbyn with the Venezuela comments. Why can't they just condemn the people who are obviously the arseholes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's like Corbyn with the Venezuela comments. Why can't they just condemn the people who are obviously the arseholes? I think corbyn already condemned Blair... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The militia wandering around with enough automatic weapons to start a war and not be breaking the law is fucked up.Only there to defend the Nazis though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said: It's like Corbyn with the Venezuela comments. Why can't they just condemn the people who are obviously the arseholes? Must've missed the memo where the opposition in Venezuela were suddenly good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 White privilege is wandering around town with an assault rifle and not being immediately killed by the police. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Jmothecat2 said: It's like Corbyn with the Venezuela comments. Why can't they just condemn the people who are obviously the arseholes? There's 2 cheeks to every arsehole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: White privilege is wandering around town with an assault rifle and not being immediately killed by the police. It was white people protesting against that who were killed and injured I believe. It's not a race issue, it's a sanity issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I see the left has gotten their semantic ducks in a row by attempting to define this as "terrorism." Got a couple texts from Democrat friends using that exact word. It's worth a try I suppose, but I don't think people are going to buy in that Nazis fighting commies in the street is the same as random Islamic terrorism. The root of the problem is the willingness of Democrat politicians across the country over the past year refusing to protect the Constitutional rights of conservatives. In Democrat controlled area after Democrat controlled area we've seen normal Trump supporters (not these Nazi groups) physically attacked by Antifa and BLM. People were injured and massive property damage was always the result. The proper authorities clearly did not do what was needed to stop this behavior. Now, we need to wait and see what the specific situation is here, but we have a far left Democratic city govt and moderate left Democratic governor. The city government tried to ban the march, but were slapped down by the courts. We know that early on in the day the police were ordered not to interfere in clashes. Did these Democrat politicians hope the end result would be the same as previous events where Antifa and BLM "won" the day? The Democratic Party needs to take a long look in the mirror and consider their position on law and order and constitutional rights vs. street violence. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Carl Cort's Hamstring said: White privilege is wandering around town with an assault rifle and not being immediately killed by the police. Context matters. Groups like the Oath Keepers and 3%ers coordinate with the police before exercising their constitutional rights. They have zero history of violence and it's clear to the police exactly what is going on. It's quite a bid different than some dude running armed around a gang controlled neighborhood and the police have no idea what's happening. Quick story: On May Day Antifa and these militia groups gathered in my downtown. There were maybe 20-30 antifa types who were going to have a May Day rally. They wore masks and were yelling through bullhorns about whatever they yell about. Around 50 armed militia guys lined up on the other side of the street. They were there to make sure no damage was done to the town as happens in places like Berkeley or San Francisco. Members of the public were all honking their support for the militia as they drove buy. Those types are the core of actual Trump support, not these Nazi groups. The Nazis had to come from all over just to get a rally of any size. I've never met one of these folks. The militia types are everywhere and most people in conservative areas of the country know a few people semi-involved. They are like antifa or BLM in that there's supporters everywhere throughout the country. The Nazi groups have very, very limited support, but they do make a good story for the news. And of course it's convenient for the media to try and hang their actions around the necks of the entire right. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I see the left has gotten their semantic ducks in a row by attempting to define this as "terrorism." Got a couple texts from Democrat friends using that exact word. It's worth a try I suppose, but I don't think people are going to buy in that Nazis fighting commies in the street is the same as random Islamic terrorism. The root of the problem is the willingness of Democrat politicians across the country over the past year refusing to protect the Constitutional rights of conservatives. In Democrat controlled area after Democrat controlled area we've seen normal Trump supporters (not these Nazi groups) physically attacked by Antifa and BLM. People were injured and massive property damage was always the result. The proper authorities clearly did not do what was needed to stop this behavior. Now, we need to wait and see what the specific situation is here, but we have a far left Democratic city govt and moderate left Democratic governor. The city government tried to ban the march, but were slapped down by the courts. We know that early on in the day the police were ordered not to interfere in clashes. Did these Democrat politicians hope the end result would be the same as previous events where Antifa and BLM "won" the day? The Democratic Party needs to take a long look in the mirror and consider their position on law and order and constitutional rights vs. street violence. What a load of shit.Of course it's a terrorist act - or are you that thick that you can't remember Nice or Westminster Bridge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: What a load of shit. Of course it's a terrorist act - or are you that thick that you can't remember Nice or Westminster Bridge? I'm not going to get into a semantic argument with you. You can call it what you want. What's different is that these two groups were there to fight. They literally came together hoping for violence. I'd personally argue that if we are assigning blame beyond the actual individual murderers to groups, the antifa folks were the ones there to shut down constitutional rights. Who knows what the Nazis would have done if no counter protesters showed up to try and stop their free speech? I suspect they all would have got into their cars and left when they were done marching. And the biggest problem is that our government in Democrat controlled areas has allowed groups which exist only to shut down the constitutional rights of other citizens to flourish with no punishment to the individuals involved. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Oh! Swampy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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