kingjoey Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, AR851903 said: Could be tied up in midweek, but expect an unexplained 2 week wait for the fixtures. Apart from one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Flybhoy said: ^^^^ Raging ^^^^ Why do you have your team as Stirling Albion and your name as Flybhoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Has anyone actually read the SPFL rules on post-split scheduling? see Rule C16 Other than that, they can do what they like. And when it comes to the Ugly Sisters, they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 ^^^^ Raging ^^^^ ^^^^ Clown ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Has anyone actually read the SPFL rules on post-split scheduling?see Rule C16 Other than that, they can do what they like. And when it comes to the Ugly Sisters, they will. Codified rules are one thing. Normal, accepted practice is another:http://spfl.co.uk/news/article/how-the-fixture-list-is-prepared-2009-06-16/I can't be arsed trying to understand what should have happened and what has happened and why. This isn't about numbers of home games.It doesn't change the fact that twin cheeks have been treated as special again, even if only in the timing of an announcement. They have been treated differently because they are idiots. Some OF posters are defending the special treatment on this basis and can't see the irony. Us- "why are they getting special treatment?"Them- "shut up diddies we need special treatment cos we're fannies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 7 hours ago, coprolite said: Codified rules are one thing. Normal, accepted practice is another:http://spfl.co.uk/news/article/how-the-fixture-list-is-prepared-2009-06-16/ I can't be arsed trying to understand what should have happened and what has happened and why. This isn't about numbers of home games. It doesn't change the fact that twin cheeks have been treated as special again, even if only in the timing of an announcement. They have been treated differently because they are idiots. Some OF posters are defending the special treatment on this basis and can't see the irony. Us- "why are they getting special treatment?" Them- "shut up diddies we need special treatment cos we're fannies." This is the SPL guide from 2009. As it is from the SPFL site, I presume they use the same criteria. Perhaps they should consider updating it to make the organisation appear a bit more professional. It makes no mention of post-split fixtures and therefore has no relevance in this discussion. Whatever method they use to determine these fixtures, it can never be fair. Having a split after three rounds of matches ensures that this is the case. I entirely agree that these two teams are being treated differently and that it is wrong. Unfortunately, that has long been the case. Those that claim that this has been done on the insistence of the police should provide evidence. It seems likely that it has more to do with the TV contract. It wouldn't be the only instance of the TV contract being at odds with the sporting integrity of the league. Surely, the last round of matches before the split should all kick off simultaneously to ensure fairness. We have one match on Friday (moved for BT), four on Saturday and one on Sunday (moved for Sky). Next time they do a TV deal they should have one eye on sporting integrity. That, too, would help to make the organisation appear a bit more professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Presumably they can now mathematically prove that Sevco, the lowest seeded top six club, will not have to visit Parkhead for a third time?If they cannot, then this is the usual story of certain clubs getting special treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Aye i can see why this has caused such a stooshie, fcking outrageous so it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 2 hours ago, tarapoa said: Presumably they can now mathematically prove that Sevco, the lowest seeded top six club, will not have to visit Parkhead for a third time? If they cannot, then this is the usual story of certain clubs getting special treatment. What are the criteria for the seedings and for what purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Arnold Layne said: What are the criteria for the seedings and for what purpose? Would assume it's supposed to be based on last years league positions, i.e Celtic, Dons, Hearts, Saints, Thistle, Sevco Whereas in reality its going to be Celtic then Rangers, followed by four inconveniences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 47 minutes ago, deej said: Would assume it's supposed to be based on last years league positions, i.e Celtic, Dons, Hearts, Saints, Thistle, Sevco Whereas in reality its going to be Celtic then Rangers, followed by four inconveniences I have not seen seedings mentioned in any official documentation. What is their purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 16 hours ago, RossDee01 said: ^^^^ Clown ^^^^ ^^^Tears of a....^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Why do you have your team as Stirling Albion and your name as Flybhoy? He pied them to go and support Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Arnold Layne said: What are the criteria for the seedings and for what purpose? Im fairly sure they take Dundee Uniteds "seeding" from last season, meaning in the case of their being an uneven home/away split (which im fairly sure is ue to happen due to Partick and Rangers both being new to the top half), the team to lose out on and home game should be Rangers. Sadly the rules aren't applied to them the same as it is to everyone else, so someone else will get shafted, yet again, probably Partick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I genuinely want to know what criteria are used to determine the post-split fixtures. Can anybody point me to documentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Arnold Layne said: I genuinely want to know what criteria are used to determine the post-split fixtures. Can anybody point me to documentation? Not sure there has been anything since it became the SPFL. In the SPL days, there was once something that tried to explain how they do it (obviously neglecting that the key criteria was Rangers and Celtic get 19/19 and play each other twice at home) but not sure how you'd find it now. Thistle will get 20 home games if they secure top six. The only fixture change will be Hearts coming to Perth a third time. I think @Fuctifano produced a good chart a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Quote C16 The Clubs in positions 1 to 6 of the Premiership immediately after the 33rd League Match in any Season shall play in that Season in a further five League Matches in that Season, once against each of the other five Clubs in such positions 1 to 6, and in at least two of such five League Matches each Club shall be the Home Club and the Clubs in positions 7 to 12 of the Premiership immediately after the 33rd League Match in any Season shall play in that Season in a further five League Matches in that Season, once against each of the other five Clubs in such positions 7 to 12, and in at least two of such five League Matches each Club shall be the Home Club. So basically, everybody is guaranteed two home games after the split. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Arnold Layne said: I genuinely want to know what criteria are used to determine the post-split fixtures. Can anybody point me to documentation? http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__rulesofthespflasat26_jan_17current_1489151998.pdf Have a read of that, might keep you busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, deej said: http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__rulesofthespflasat26_jan_17current_1489151998.pdf Have a read of that, might keep you busy Thanks. I have posted this already. The only reference to post-split games is in Rule C16 13 minutes ago, deej said: So basically, everybody is guaranteed two home games after the split. Nothing else. and Yes, that's the only criteria I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, Radford said: Not sure there has been anything since it became the SPFL. In the SPL days, there was once something that tried to explain how they do it (obviously neglecting that the key criteria was Rangers and Celtic get 19/19 and play each other twice at home) but not sure how you'd find it now. Thistle will get 20 home games if they secure top six. The only fixture change will be Hearts coming to Perth a third time. I think @Fuctifano produced a good chart a few weeks ago. Yes, you're right. I remember seeing something like that. I think it was an explanation of how the computer model worked. Tbh though, it doesn't really matter how the computer model works if it is not backed up by regulation. The computer model could say Sort the Ugly Sisters out and fu<k the rest of them. It seems to me, the problem is that they cannot write regulations because it is an inherently flawed system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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