Arch Stanton Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, callum-g said: How do you work that out ? Indeed since even if we win both, if Kilmarnock win their next 2 they'll still be above us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, callum-g said: How do you work that out ? 25 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Indeed since even if we win both, if Kilmarnock win their next 2 they'll still be above us. I guess he’s assuming Kilmarnock won’t win at Parkhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Indeed since even if we win both, if Kilmarnock win their next 2 they'll still be above us. I think he's working on the assumption that as Killie go to Parkhead the game after next they are unlikely to win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-g Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Hendo said: I think he's working on the assumption that as Killie go to Parkhead the game after next they are unlikely to win. 1 hour ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I guess he’s assuming Kilmarnock won’t win at Parkhead. If that’s the case, Someone should remind him that Killie have beaten Celtic TWICE this season - nothing should be taken for granted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, callum-g said: How do you work that out ? Killie play Livi then Celtic... pretty unlikely that they will take 6 points and they are only 1 point in front of us. Even if they get 4 points, if we win both games we go in front of them. No guarantees but my premise is based on us winning the next 2 games. Do you think Killie will win their 2 next fixtures? Edited February 5 by medals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac28 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Kwon and CBM should start against Dundee. We cant use Kwon against Celtic so we will need Baccus fully rested and on top form. If O'Hara is suffering with a niggle we shoudl just rest him while we can aswell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 55 minutes ago, callum-g said: If that’s the case, Someone should remind him that Killie have beaten Celtic TWICE this season - nothing should be taken for If you think that means they'll managed it 3 in a row you should put money on it. I would not be surprised if they don't even beat Livi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Derry Alli said: Which players are costing a significant outlay? I'll give you some time to concoct an answer. Carson, big Joe, Main, Are all over paid and this other lot won't be cheap either :- Ashcroft, Lambie, McGhee, McCowan, Boating, Bakayoko, Robinson, Beck, Legzdins. I believe your also carrying a few more 1st team players than us and have a number out on loan that your still paying part wages for. Your 1st team squad budget must be a good bit higher than ours. Edited February 5 by medals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 39 minutes ago, medals said: Carson, big Joe, Main, Are all over paid Show your workings, please. 40 minutes ago, medals said: lots won't be cheap either :- Ashcroft, McGhee, McCowan I see now you have no idea what you're talking about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-g Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, medals said: If you think that means they'll managed it 3 in a row you should put money on it. I would not be surprised if they don't even beat Livi. Go have a look at your post , you present it as fact that we will go 4th if we win our next two games , this simply isn’t true, it’s probable but not fact . Although Celtic will be favourites to take the points from Killie, absolutely nothing is certain . Who would have thought Killie could have done the double over them this season ? Edited February 5 by callum-g 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, callum-g said: Go have a look at your post , you present it as fact that we will go 4th if we win our next two games , this simply isn’t true, it’s probable but not fact . Although Celtic will be favourites to take the points from Killie, absolutely nothing is certain . Who would have thought Killie could have done the double over them this season ? Not just that, but it's the kind of thing that happens to us when we do take things like that for granted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 20 minutes ago, callum-g said: Go have a look at your post , you present it as fact that we will go 4th if we win our next two games , this simply isn’t true, it’s probable but not fact . Although Celtic will be favourites to take the points from Killie, absolutely nothing is certain . Who would have thought Killie could have done the double over them this season ? I take your point but logically I cannot mean it as fact. Its an optimistic hope: its something to aim for. Please don't presume I am claiming it literally, even though I ought to have worded it better. The big deal is if we win both league games we will pull away from rivals and most likely move into 4th. I was speculating. Ps. Killie have taken 50% points 9 from 18 over the last 6 of their matches. We have taken less but the next 4 for us are reasonably winable while they have a tougher run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Feel the Dundee fans on this thread currently might cut any cynics who think they might be up to their old financial tricks some slack. It wouldn't be the first, or second, time, now, would it? (All our clubs have been on their arses at one time or another, of course, but there are a few repeat offenders). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Kilmarnock's record at Celtic Park is worse than ours. Their last league win was in 2012-13. Their last win before that was in 1955!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 We need to give Goga whatever it takes to sign a new deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellthepaw Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 16 hours ago, AW saint said: We need to give Goga whatever it takes to sign a new deal. Highest earner at the club. Would most likely need to offer him higher to stay (if he wants to stay), since his performances have been absolutely solid since day 1. I'd hope the only reason he moved on was to be closer to home or a last big pay day. If we make one of those top 5 places this season, it may well be a deal breaker for next, and the fact he is getting international recognition whilst playing with us shows you don't need to be playing for one of the top clubs in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, smellthepaw said: Highest earner at the club. Would most likely need to offer him higher to stay (if he wants to stay), since his performances have been absolutely solid since day 1. I'd hope the only reason he moved on was to be closer to home or a last big pay day. If we make one of those top 5 places this season, it may well be a deal breaker for next, and the fact he is getting international recognition whilst playing with us shows you don't need to be playing for one of the top clubs in the country. It would be a big blow to lose him. I guess the fact it didn't work out for him at Hibs might mean that the bigger Scottish clubs might look elsewhere. That said, it seems Dundee and Kilmarnock are offering more money than us, so they might make a move. I think a team in league 1 ib England, or somewhere abroad might be the most likely. As you say, he's earned a salary bump and if he needs to move down south or abroad for that then I certainly wouldn't hold it against him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medals Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) 38 minutes ago, houston_bud said: It would be a big blow to lose him. I guess the fact it didn't work out for him at Hibs might mean that the bigger Scottish clubs might look elsewhere. That said, it seems Dundee and Kilmarnock are offering more money than us, so they might make a move. I think a team in league 1 ib England, or somewhere abroad might be the most likely. As you say, he's earned a salary bump and if he needs to move down south or abroad for that then I certainly wouldn't hold it against him. We've let big earners go previously? Carson, Brophy, Gallagher, Main, Big Joe etc. Truth is though most of them were aging and/or less likely to produce the goods week in week out. Goga is different. Only 29. He is strong and fit. Gives 100 % every week, and can contribute at both ends of the park. With the extra Euro money we can afford to make him a decent offer and he clearly loves it here. He is a fans favourite for all the right reasons. I think he'll sign on again, it's good for all parties. Edited February 6 by medals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, smellthepaw said: Highest earner at the club. Cant see you having two players on over £5k a week tbh, and would it also include free flights to Holland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellthepaw Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 42 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Cant see you having two players on over £5k a week tbh, and would it also include free flights to Holland? I'm not sure who else you are referring to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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