wastecoatwilly Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: There are more people at home watching the Barca game than appearing on You Tube. I don't know how they would vote. Why do you think they have sent the troops in, Madrid knows how they will vote? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: A minority did. No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 If only there were some way of actually finding out what the people of Catalonia want? I mean, people on the internet telling other people on the internet what they want is great but there must be some more objective way of finding out? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: How do you know? He has a family home in Catalonia and has "Spanish" friends, so has heard both sides of the argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, wastecoatwilly said: Why do you think they have sent the troops in, Madrid knows how they will vote? Madrid is stupid, they'll make people who would have voted No switch to Yes. 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: No. 47% for pro-referendum parties, 53% against. Bigger margin than Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: A minority did. Sit in the hoose and watch barca or go out and get hit with a baton to vote nice choice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Spain have lost big time. Scenes of Franco's paramilitary police enforcing one of Franco's laws by beating up old women and other peaceful protestors have sullied Madrid irredeemably. Kudos to Catalan firefighters and police who are protecting unarmed civilians against Madrid's violence. And, shame on Corbyn and Labour for refusing to speak out against this until this afternoon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, wastecoatwilly said: Sit in the hoose and watch barca or go out and get hit with a baton to vote nice choice? Was 'Nice Choice' an option on the ballot paper? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Madrid is stupid, they'll make people who would have voted No switch to Yes. 47% for pro-referendum parties, 53% against. Bigger margin than Brexit. No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So, what happens if the result is Yes? I'm assuming things kick off even further? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Afro said: So, what happens if the result is Yes? I'm assuming things kick off even further? Nah it will be settled on a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Tynieness said: Nah it will be settled on a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors... only in Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Afro said: So, what happens if the result is Yes? I'm assuming things kick off even further? It's inevitably going to be Yes. Many No voters see it as an illegal stunt and will stay at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Sit in the hoose and watch barca or go out and get hit with a baton to vote nice choice? So if you were in your Catalan family home at the moment, that's what you would be doing rather than your post below. Good for you, Mr No pasarán 2 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: As long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under Spanish rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tynieness said: Nah it will be settled on a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors... We've got The Rock, who has the paper and scissors? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 And, shame on Corbyn and Labour for refusing to speak out against this until this afternoon. That's your takeaway from this? Watching the videos of anti-referendum protestors is eye opening, I know so little about Spanish politics but physically preventing people from voting, using police violence to do so, is nothing short of frightening. For those better informed than I why are they doing this? If the referendum is unconstitutional and they want to go down the road of not allowing the Catalans the chance to vote, why not ignore it, refuse to recognise it and quietly suggest to unionists that they shouldn't vote? It would be easy to dismiss a referendum which clearly isn't representative of the views and it would make the referendum a farce. Instead they've given the world a glimpse of terror and if I were a soft-no supporter in Catalonia I would be firmly pro-Indy then and there. It's absolutely fucked up. Bad enough not giving them a referendum (if they think this one is flawed, work with the Catalan government to crests one that isn't) but if they are determined not to have it why react to it like this? It's fucking mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 only in Scotland We were too much a nation of shitebags, to even find out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 'What do you do at work today daddy ?' 'Well son, I put on a balaclava and my protective riot gear and beat the shit out of little old ladies on their way to vote' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The Guardia Civil are just gonna nick the ballot boxes before the count takes place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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