craigkillie Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Serious changes have been and are being made, for example the Performance Director role was created and Performance Schools were introduced a few years back, and this year we'll see Project Brave fully rolled out. These things might not be popular, might not be good ideas and might not ultimately work, but it's hard to claim that the SFA have been ignoring the issues. When it comes to the media, if anything they talk about our lack of tournament qualification too much, as though it's the only thing which defines our game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 It's also a pretty useless stat on its own. You can run this counter as long as you want, but it'll all disappear if we actually qualify. Wales was something like 58 years, wasn't it? They then qualified and were probably THE over-achievers at the Euros. It's just a nice soundbite that people who want to hand-wring can trot out, usually along with some pithy comment about our current manager, or these "players that have failed time and again". Like Bale, Ramsey, Williams et al until 2015. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Murrayfield was marked out to be the exact same size as Tynecastle. Lesser Hampden is a smaller park (I'm pretty sure) than Hampden, plus a totally different surface. No chance would the league let them play on both as it wouldn't ensure a level playing field for the other teams in the league Murrayfield is half grass/synthetic so its not out of the question. Surely Hampden pitch could be marked the same as lesser Hampden for Queens games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, craigkillie said: Serious changes have been and are being made, for example the Performance Director role was created and Performance Schools were introduced a few years back, and this year we'll see Project Brave fully rolled out. These things might not be popular, might not be good ideas and might not ultimately work, but it's hard to claim that the SFA have been ignoring the issues. When it comes to the media, if anything they talk about our lack of tournament qualification too much, as though it's the only thing which defines our game. I'm not saying that all I want is the media to talk about how poor the Scottish national team is - that's counterproductive. The point on the media is that this getting rid of Hampden is the kind of pointless distraction that we don't need. Also seems like almost sour grapes to me. There are very few UEFA countries with similar populations that have 50k capacity stadiums that are UEFA category 4. None of those countries are wanting rid of their national stadiums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On Tuesday, January 09, 2018 at 18:32, Forest of Dean said: The point on the media is that this getting rid of Hampden is the kind of pointless distraction that we don't need. Also seems like almost sour grapes to me. There are very few UEFA countries with similar populations that have 50k capacity stadiums that are UEFA category 4. None of those countries are wanting rid of their national stadiums. Good point, only 13 UEFA countries have a category 4 stadium, and of those only Ireland and Wales are smaller than Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 18:32, Forest of Dean said: There are very few UEFA countries with similar populations that have 50k capacity stadiums that are UEFA category 4. None of those countries are wanting rid of their national stadiums. On 1/14/2018 at 13:46, Lurkst said: Good point, only 13 UEFA countries have a category 4 stadium, and of those only Ireland and Wales are smaller than Scotland. You could extrapolate that the other way too using national populations. Pro-rata, Germany should have a stadium capacity of about 800,000. England half a million. Poland 300,000. France and Italy c700k. Scotland's always punched above it's weight with crowd attendances. Given so few internationals are on a Saturday anymore it's quite remarkable so many keep coming back. Especially considering the quality of product on display. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Rangers and Celtic make joint bid for Scotland games and cup finals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said: Rangers and Celtic make joint bid for Scotland games and cup finals No doubt they'll be aided and abetted by their pals in the papers. It was refreshing to hear the spirited defence of Hampden by the panel on Sportsound tonight though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Rangers and Celtic make joint bid for Scotland games and cup finals Just no. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 What's the betting that the thinking behind Project Brave is akin the Welsh League or even the Pro14 Rugby system, where their bigger Clubs play in a richer foreign league leaving a skeletal system back home. Giving the OF* National stadium status would further strengthen their position as well as financially. Bend over boys.......the OF* boaby is coming! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Johnny van Axeldongen said: Rangers and Celtic make joint bid for Scotland games and cup finals Another joint proposal. Wasn't long ago the Lawwell was busy telling us that Celtic didn't need Rangers and now we have two joint proposals in the first three weeks of the year. If either of them are convinced that their stadia is suitable then they should individually submit a proposal for replacing Hampden. This constant need for Scottish Football to attempt to equalise any benefits across Rangers and Celtic is crass. Maybe if they extended the same courtesy to the other 40 members it would be more palatable. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, strichener said: Another joint proposal. Wasn't long ago the Lawwell was busy telling us that Celtic didn't need Rangers and now we have two joint proposals in the first three weeks of the year. If either of them are convinced that their stadia is suitable then they should individually submit a proposal for replacing Hampden. This constant need for Scottish Football to attempt to equalise any benefits across Rangers and Celtic is crass. Maybe if they extended the same courtesy to the other 40 members it would be more palatable. Spot on. The mutually beneficial pantomime rivalry grinds on at the expense of the rest. A sickening pair of clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 If they didn't, there'd be social unrest. They won't get that from supporters of the other 40 clubs because we are far fewer and generally less simian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, strichener said: Another joint proposal. Wasn't long ago the Lawwell was busy telling us that Celtic didn't need Rangers Source please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Source please. Happy to help. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17013512 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, H Wragg said: Happy to help.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17013512 An clickbait article written by an ex Labour councillor for Islington? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Another joint proposal. Wasn't long ago the Lawwell was busy telling us that Celtic didn't need Rangers and now we have two joint proposals in the first three weeks of the year. Im pretty sure we could host the games in our own so hes right we dont need Rangers,especially for this. Imo When Rangers died the SFA could have had Ibrox and Murray park for relative buttons (5 million for the two I think it was?). The other proposal I think you are talking about is colt teams which others are making murmurs about putting one in as well, I personally dont agree with chucking them in league 2 though. What the SFA could do now is tender each game out and have QP,Sevco and Celtic flighting it out for the bigger games and have others for smaller games, so they get the best deal for each gamr and sutiable sized stadium for each game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Why didn't they do that during the Commonwealth Games works, then? Instead we'd the nonsense of the authorities awarding Scottish Cup Final to Parkhead, SFs to Ibrox, and League Cup Final to Parkhead before season started for 'balance'... ... meaning Rangers got to play their SF v Dundee United at home! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Glenconner said: Source please. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11781/7519030/lawwell-we-dont-need-gers Quote The way we would look at it is we don't need Rangers Also from the same time Quote We are getting on with it, we are independent in terms of where we want to take the club and that's what we will continue to do Not so independent now though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 hours ago, gannonball said: Im pretty sure we could host the games in our own so hes right we dont need Rangers,especially for this. Imo When Rangers died the SFA could have had Ibrox and Murray park for relative buttons (5 million for the two I think it was?). The other proposal I think you are talking about is colt teams which others are making murmurs about putting one in as well, I personally dont agree with chucking them in league 2 though. What the SFA could do now is tender each game out and have QP,Sevco and Celtic flighting it out for the bigger games and have others for smaller games, so they get the best deal for each gamr and sutiable sized stadium for each game. Of course you could host the games on your own. The fact that you are not willing to is the whole point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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