RandomGuy. Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 7 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Garry Kenneth got capped. Twice. Mind boggles. Tbf was that not entirely because he came at United under Levein? Thats what i always assumed. Much like how Brophy got a Scotland cap as he played well for Clarke at club level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 QoS v Falkirk, League Cup, August 1995, and a well-filled Terregles Street End. MoJo hanging around the penalty spot is the only one I recognise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) John Clark heading the ball I think, with Stevie Kirk lurking, and is that maybe Coco MacDonald on the far right? EDIT: It is Joe McLaughlin on the RHS, and Mark McGraw (good old quickdraw) partially obscured by the goal net. Edited December 19, 2022 by Ranaldo Bairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Difficult to illustrate but titbit of another era: 70yrs ago Rangers 4-0 St Mirren started 5min early, at 2:10pm, and HT cut to 5min but as 2nd half wore on darkness and rain still made visibility increasingly poor especially for fans. Rangers put on their lights... but ref immediately suspended play: their use competitively was forbidden! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Something in the back of my mind says that there was some DEVIL'S ILLUMINATION rule that lights had to be on from the start of games. This was usually ignored in the East of Scotland League at those few clubs who had lights- "the ref's wanting the lights on at half time, it's a bit dark". Incidentally you would have thought putting on the mighty erections at Meadowbank Stadium would have involved throwing switches like in Frankenstein's lab but there were really just four switches that looked like house light switches. The secret was you had to do it in a set order- 1 and 3, then 2 and 4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Difficult to illustrate but titbit of another era: 70yrs ago Rangers 4-0 St Mirren started 5min early, at 2:10pm, and HT cut to 5min but as 2nd half wore on darkness and rain still made visibility increasingly poor especially for fans. Rangers put on their lights... but ref immediately suspended play: their use competitively was forbidden! East Fife top of the league after 15 games! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Well it was 120 years ago today that Hibs (with 2 games to spare) won their first-ever Scottish League title: and for the only time held it alongside the Scottish Cup. Here those iconic images: Incidentally those trophies are left-right: Glasgow Charity Cup Scottish Cup Edinburgh & East of Scotland League Rosebery (Edinburgh) Charity Cup (E&EOSL trophy aka 'McRae Cup') Trophies again left-to-right: Edinburgh & East of Scotland League East of Scotland Shield Rosebery (Edinburgh) Charity Cup 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 8 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Well it was 120 years ago today that Hibs (with 2 games to spare) won their first-ever Scottish League title: and for the only time held it alongside the Scottish Cup. Here those iconic images: Incidentally those trophies are left-right: Glasgow Charity Cup Scottish Cup Edinburgh & East of Scotland League Rosebery (Edinburgh) Charity Cup (E&EOSL trophy aka 'McRae Cup') Trophies again left-to-right: Edinburgh & East of Scotland League East of Scotland Shield Rosebery (Edinburgh) Charity Cup The player in the second picture sitting beside the Edinburgh & East league trophy is Barney Breslin. When Hibs won the Scottish Cup in 1902, it was achieved at Celtic Park with the losing side hosting their own final. (Celtic 0 Hibernian 1). The Final had been due to be played at neutral Ibrox, but was relocated due to the first Ibrox disaster, which brought 25 fatalities, that had occured a week previously. I'm unsure, perhaps @HibeeJibee knows for certain, but think this was the last Scottish Cup Final to be played at a participants home venue. A couple of previous Finals I know of were played at Hampden (one a replay) where Queen's Park won the trophy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylangt7 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 16 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Difficult to illustrate but titbit of another era: 70yrs ago Rangers 4-0 St Mirren started 5min early, at 2:10pm, and HT cut to 5min but as 2nd half wore on darkness and rain still made visibility increasingly poor especially for fans. Rangers put on their lights... but ref immediately suspended play: their use competitively was forbidden! Division A and B - what was the reason for that naming convention? Only ever seen it as Div 1 Div 2 etc...unless its conferences and those dont look like conferences 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, Dylangt7 said: Division A and B - what was the reason for that naming convention? Only ever seen it as Div 1 Div 2 etc...unless its conferences and those dont look like conferences After the war the Scottish League was reorganised, and reduced in size from the prewar divisions, leading to a number of clubs being excluded. These clubs were accommodated in a third division along with some reserve sides of bigger clubs. However, memories of the didastrous third division of the late 1920s still lingered, so the division were named A, B & C, rather than 1, 2 & 3, and no, they are not "conferences". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: I'm unsure, perhaps @HibeeJibee knows for certain, but think this was the last Scottish Cup Final to be played at a participants home venue. A couple of previous Finals I know of were played at Hampden (one a replay) where Queen's Park won the trophy. Correct and this was only final since 1870s not at a neutral venue. QP hosted first-ever 2 finals and won. 1 hour ago, Dylangt7 said: Division A and B - what was the reason for that naming convention? Only ever seen it as Div 1 Div 2 etc... 56 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: After the war the Scottish League was reorganised, and reduced in size from the prewar divisions, leading to a number of clubs being excluded. These clubs were accommodated in a third division along with some reserve sides of bigger clubs. However, memories of the didastrous third division of the late 1920s still lingered, so the division were named A, B & C, rather than 1, 2 & 3 For completeness: C Division was abolished for 1955-56... names returned to Divisions One & Two for 1956-57. Edited December 20, 2022 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Did the League winners not get a trophy in those days, given the other cups being on display along with a flag etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Did the League winners not get a trophy in those days, given the other cups being on display along with a flag etc. Scottish Cup Glasgow Charity Cup Glasgow Cup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 19/12/2022 at 00:25, HibeeJibee said: Think that's right: until that game #10 was Ronaldinho's. He also captained Barcelona for the first-ever time at Tannadice. He was absolutely ridiculous against us. Scored a hat trick in the second half, just as well he didn't come on until HT. I know many people have enjoyed seeing us get horsed over the years, but I'll happily admit I enjoyed seeing it that day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Did the League winners not get a trophy in those days, given the other cups being on display along with a flag etc. I always wondered what the point in the flag was. Especially these days when squads change season to season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Correct and this was only final since 1870s not at a neutral venue. QP hosted first-ever 2 finals and won. Some sites have the the third final (replay) beingwon by Queen's Park at Hampden, following a first match at Hamilton Crescent, but I think that is incorrect. Edited December 20, 2022 by Dundee Hibernian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Some sites have the the third final (replay) beingwon by Queen's Park at Hampden, following a first match at Hamilton Crescent, but I think that is incorrect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piquet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Don't you just love the Thistle v Alexandra report? "one goal to the Thistle against a disputed goal to the Alexandra" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Found this on Pinterest. All the best on your 150th anniversary this weekend. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Photographs from the boys' publication 'Pals Magazine', season 1922-23, 100 years ago. Like these one colour jerseys much better than many of today's styles. Dundee finished that season with a tour of Spain, beating Real Madrid before losing to Barcelona. Celtic won the Scottish Cup in 1922-23. Willie Crilly had signed from Alloa Athletic at the end of the previous season, having scored an incredible 49 goals to help the Wasps to promotion. But he quickly returned to the Recs, moving back to Alloa in September the same year. He then left for the USA, and played for a large number of clubs well into the 1930s. The Bairns signed Syd Puddefoot for a world record transfer fee from West Ham United in February 1922, and he helped them to a very creditable 4th place in 1922-23. He'd previously played for Falkirk during the Great War, as he was stationed near Stirling. Also a very good cricketer, turing out for Essex, after his playing career ended he coached Fenerbache and Galatasaray in Turkey. Sporting a gold and black outfit, Aberdeen ended in fifth place 100 years ago, with John Miller, who was signed from Liverpool, scoring 25 league goals. The AFC Heritage site has that as a record for a Dons player in a single season. Surprised to read that, always thought wee Joe Harper would be that man. Edited December 21, 2022 by Dundee Hibernian 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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