kennysmassiveego Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Here is the text from the article in the record: Celtic and Rangers colt teams set to play in SPFL as early as next season Reps from all 10 League Two teams met with Celtic and Rangers’ development chiefs last weekend to discuss the two-year pilot scheme. ByGordon Waddell * 06:00, 21 JAN 2018UPDATED14:01, 21 JAN 2018 A plan to see two colt teams introduced to the SPFL could be in place as early as next season. It’s understood reps from all 10 League Two teams met with Celtic and Rangers’development chiefs Chris McCart and Craig Mulholland last weekend to discuss a two-year pilot scheme. And although the move would require a vote and majority approval from all 42 league clubs, MailSport believes at least seven of the 10 who’ll be directly affected by the plan have given their encouragement. MailSport - who broke the news of the initial moves to broker a deal as part of Project Brave 13 months ago - has obtained a copy of the latest proposal aimed at kicking off in the 2018/19 season. The plan involves a two-year trial period which would see League Two grow to a 12-team set-up but: * Neither team would be allowed to win promotion or be relegated during the pilot. If they finished top or bottom or in any of the play-off places, the senior team in the next place down would automatically take that spot. * Neither side would benefit financially from the distribution of funds to the league. * The colt teams involved in the pilot project will also guarantee the purchase of a minimum of 250 tickets for each of its away fixtures at £10 per ticket, giving each team, they claim, a £15,000 lift each season. The full details of the fixture set-up with a 12-team division have yet to be decided. There is a favoured model of a 33-game schedule, although an alternative of creating a Premiership-style split and 38 games is an option. There is also an offer for both colt teams to play all games away from home, although it's expected both would have to register full league-compliant grounds. MailSport revealed last June Celtic had already made moves to make Cappielow their home away from home if the plan ever made it off the drawing board. Teams would have to name a squad at the start of the season - effectively an under-21 squad with two permanent overage players - and players would not be allowed to migrate from the parent club’s top team except in transfer windows. League sources were keen to stress last night that the plan is not limited to Celtic and Rangers’ set-ups, despite the pair being front and centre of the bid to persuade clubs of its benefits. It's also understood, however, that others who have expressed an interest previously - Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs - may be interested in the long term but aren’t ready to take up a place as early as the summer, paving the way for the two Glasgow clubs. An SPFL source said: “Historically there have always been objections to this but what we need to understand now is this isn’t the same debate we’re having - this is about development of our young players, it’s not about Rangers and Celtic leaving legacy teams behind as they seek to move on. “So as this goes through the approval process, if it achieves support, other Premiership teams may yet want to be involved.” MailSport understands the plan is to work their way up through the leagues with their discussions before calling an egm vote. Any change would require the approval of 11 of the 12 Premiership clubs and 23 of the 30 (75 per cent) lower league clubs. One League Two source who attended the meeting last weekend told us: “There were fewer objections than I’ve heard previously because Craig and Chris presented a strong case for why it would help in terms of the overall development strategy which Project Brave has been addressing. And it would be financially beneficial to a degree as well. “But there are still a lot of questions to be answered, not least what would happen in year three. As usual with these things, we’re getting bits of the story but it would have been more helpful to hear it all and to have the SFA there as part of the discussion. “The fact it was just Rangers and Celtic doesn’t help the perception that it’s the greater good being served, no matter how convincing the case they’re putting is.” ‘ neither team will be allowed to win promotion or be relegated DURING the pilot “ thats the thin end of the wedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 To summarise: nobody wanted Colt teams in the league. So now we're back offering a huge financial bribe to part-time clubs who will find it difficult to turn down. We will offer these incentives over the two year trial period, but once we are into theleague set up you won't get rid of us. So we don't really need to pay you anymore do we? After that, Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen will also want a slice of the action so more of you diddies will slide out of the league and into oblivion. Which is, surely what we all want, as we all know there's too many clubs in Scotland anyway. Rather than the top young players in the country being available through the loan system, we will stockpile all of them. It doesn't really matter that most won't play for us, some might, and it will stop others from getting their hands on them as well. Win win for all of us. Its all about Scotland winning the World Cup really. Our young players are hardly going to develop playing the elite young players of Europe. Far better up against part timers from lower leagues. What's that you say, why not enter a single Scotland under 21 squad in the league set up then? Well where's the benefit in that to us?? end (for Scottish football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 man-marking the likes of Rory McAllister whilst playing into horizontal sleet at Balmoor is the making of a future international, dontcha know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Apparently 11 top flight clubs need to agree, we already know two are guaranteed, Budge has pushing to get part time sides our the league system since she arrived, so that's three definitely going for it. Be interesting to see how the others voted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Colt teams have struggled in the challenge cup, disappointed that Rangers appear to be going along with this. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, bennett said: Colt teams have struggled in the challenge cup, disappointed that Rangers appear to be going along with this. If it's not broken, don't fix it. If you really don't like it, contact the club and tell them that you won't renew your season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 When will someone stand up to these cvnts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Can someone tell us any realistic benefits of this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Arnold Layne said: If you really don't like it, contact the club and tell them that you won't renew your season ticket. Or you could contact your club and threaten to boycott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Can't wait for the outrage when some Celtic starlet gets absolutely halved by a 16 stone clogger 35 year old Stirling Albion centre half and is out for 9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, bennett said: Or you could contact your club and threaten to boycott... And you can just walk away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Can someone tell us any realistic benefits of this idea? Spain and Germany do it and they are really good, seems to be the fucking simpleton logic behind it.Norway (who are probably worse than us) and Holland (who have been shit lately) also held up as glowing examples of not qualifying for tournaments presumably [emoji848] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Arnold Layne said: And you can just walk away? Did you not see that famous YouTube video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, bennett said: Or you could contact your club and threaten to boycott... Most fan groups have done exactly that. I've always found it curious how Celtic and Rangers hate each other, and are apparently hamstrung by the authorities, and yet regularly put joint plans forward that are instantly put to a vote without any form of fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Can someone tell us any realistic benefits of this idea? It benefits the Glasgow mutants, thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Layne Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Most fan groups have done exactly that. I've always found it curious how Celtic and Rangers hate each other, and are apparently hamstrung by the authorities, and yet regularly put joint plans forward that are instantly put to a vote without any form of fuss. It's telling that this is supposed to be an SFA/SPFL plan yet the Heads of Development of these two teams are meeting the clubs to explain the b£n£fits with no representative from the authorities present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Arnold Layne said: It's telling that this is supposed to be an SFA/SPFL plan yet the Heads of Development of these two teams are meeting the clubs to explain the b£n£fits with no representative from the authorities present. It's sickening. They don't even feel the need to pretend that this is about the greater good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think this is another moment for fan action like we saw in the wake of 'armageddon'. If fans of the other 30 clubs can group together and pressure our own clubs into raising the £150k to match or better this bribe that's been offered it would really show how sick of this Glasgow bias we are (apologies Thistle fans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Illgresi said: I think this is another moment for fan action like we saw in the wake of 'armageddon'. If fans of the other 30 clubs can group together and pressure our own clubs into raising the £150k to match or better this bribe that's been offered it would really show how sick of this Glasgow bias we are (apologies Thistle fans). How about just pressing clubs to resist the bribe, rather than feel a need to match it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: How about just pressing clubs to resist the bribe, rather than feel a need to match it? Yup. If that's what's needed to make them do the right thing then they could get fucked anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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