Salt n Vinegar Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Just to be completely clear, the criticism from Police groups is more to do with the fact they’ve created legislation which really would require in person training and the government has defunded the police to the extent that this cant be done. The Scottish Police Federation doesnt object to legislation being put in place to deal with hate crime, simply the delivery is poor. I dont see it having any impact on free speech in any way really. I listened to the phone-in and was a bit disappointed. The question that should have been asked of those opposed to the Act was 'what view, (or subject matter or approach to it) is it that you think you could have said yesterday without breaking the law that you think you can't say today?" (Not looking for P&Bers to incriminate themselves in replies to this, btw.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 4 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I listened to the phone-in and was a bit disappointed. The question that should have been asked of those opposed to the Act was 'what view, (or subject matter or approach to it) is it that you think you could have said yesterday without breaking the law that you think you can't say today?" (Not looking for P&Bers to incriminate themselves in replies to this, btw.) Generation Woke will not be allowed to say the word 'boomer'. Hate word against a certain age group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 26 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Just to be completely clear, the criticism from Police groups is more to do with the fact they’ve created legislation which really would require in person training and the government has defunded the police to the extent that this cant be done. The Scottish Police Federation doesnt object to legislation being put in place to deal with hate crime, simply the delivery is poor. I dont see it having any impact on free speech in any way really. Yep, and I certainly wasnt having a pop at your guys - extra work when you have fewer resources is unhelpful to say the least........ My thing was more how the good old Beeb was editorialising the issue and then reusing specific parts in later editions. The part I mention above re "chilling of free speech" was actually a direct lift by the BBC from The Guardians comment today.........and if they read it properly it related to English Laws !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Yep, and I certainly wasnt having a pop at your guys - extra work when you have fewer resources is unhelpful to say the least........ My thing was more how the good old Beeb was editorialising the issue and then reusing specific parts in later editions. The part I mention above re "chilling of free speech" was actually a direct lift by the BBC from The Guardians comment today.........and if they read it properly it related to English Laws !! Oh no i agree, they heavily edited a video of David Kennedy and it appears to give a slant that they oppose the act, which isnt in any way what the actual rhetoric was. i was just trying to be clear here as theres obviously folks who just want to be outraged all the time. Edited April 1 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 If you've nothing nice to say, say nothing. I think you are all wonderful on here. Even the **** and the ****. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Regardless how many BBC views and broadcasts discussed over the years on this thread pose yea's and nay's for the public funded BBC it cannot be disregarded that it is used used by westminster and the tories as a propaganda tool. We must be the only taxpayers in the world who pay a licence for a public broadcaster which is then manipulated by whatever government is in power, we must be nuts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 01/04/2024 at 10:48, SlipperyP said: Generation Woke will not be allowed to say the word 'boomer'. Hate word against a certain age group. And utterly dreadful patter. If the legislation can have some positive effects, then this might be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Has Slips gone full Tiss? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 8 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Has Slips gone full Tiss? I love your avatar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Saw Reporting Scotland yesterday and they covered the story of the Rectum of Glasgow Uni's inaugural address, describing it frequently as "controversial" and that there had been complaints about "hate speech" as he had accused Israel of genocide and then quoted Bobby Sands. It was really poor reporting and needlessly sensationalist. Most people now see it as a genocide and the lad in question has worked all across the middle east in war ravaged places, including Gaza. It's also Glasgow fucking Uni, so his election is entirely on trend for that student body. Quoting Bobby Sands was ill advised, especially without referencing his apparent need of deep fried poultry, but the rest was fine. The BBC trying to shape opinion on the massacre (called a "conflict") is disappointing but not surprising. Seeing the Scottish lot do it too felt very odd. Ann McAlpine and her delicious Lewis accent are entirely welcome to return to my screen though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Reporting Scotland last night and the small section that BBC Scotland gets on Breakfast this morning full of anti Scottish Government reporting. The BBC are no longer being diplomatic in their anti SNP propaganda but now going, as per westminster paymasters telling them, full tilt at our Government. The sooner we are independent and rid of the BBC the better off our country will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 It's been like that since the referendum in 2014, Sandy. It's a Unionist corporation so it stands to reason that it's employees will be, in the vast majority, Scottish Unionists. Certainly the editors appear to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 18/04/2024 at 14:21, TheScarf said: It's been like that since the referendum in 2014, Sandy. It's a Unionist corporation so it stands to reason that it's employees will be, in the vast majority, Scottish Unionists. Certainly the editors appear to be. Absolutely, but the blatant fifth column anti Scottish Government reporting by the Scottish taxpayer funded BBC is surely a violation of BBC professed impartial broadcasting and it needs to be harnessed. To report on any Governments failings is a fair issue but to suggest criminal failings to suit the unionist movement is criminal. E 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 BBC Radio 4 report tonight: They went to a Scottish town to gauge opinion regarding Humza's resignation: Glasgow? Dundee? Aberdeen? No, it was Dumfries. Solid Tory Dumfries. And the people they stopped all had non-Dumfries accents and sounded English to my mind. To be fair rather than getting "Hooray, the end of the SNP. Rule Britannia" type opinions the most strident opinion was "they're all useless". Hardly an endorsement of Ross, Sarwar or Cole-Hamilton really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, tamthebam said: BBC Radio 4 report tonight: They went to a Scottish town to gauge opinion regarding Humza's resignation: Glasgow? Dundee? Aberdeen? No, it was Dumfries. Solid Tory Dumfries. And the people they stopped all had non-Dumfries accents and sounded English to my mind. To be fair rather than getting "Hooray, the end of the SNP. Rule Britannia" type opinions the most strident opinion was "they're all useless". Hardly an endorsement of Ross, Sarwar or Cole-Hamilton really. They just stopped at the first decent sized town they reached by the sounds of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) 8 hours ago, tamthebam said: BBC Radio 4 report tonight: They went to a Scottish town to gauge opinion regarding Humza's resignation: Glasgow? Dundee? Aberdeen? No, it was Dumfries. Solid Tory Dumfries. And the people they stopped all had non-Dumfries accents and sounded English to my mind. To be fair rather than getting "Hooray, the end of the SNP. Rule Britannia" type opinions the most strident opinion was "they're all useless". Hardly an endorsement of Ross, Sarwar or Cole-Hamilton really. R4 Nick Robinson is in Edinburgh today, and they just went over the Scottish newspaper headlines (as if papers are in some way the main method that people consume news). He was almost giggling at the Herald editorial slagging off HY departure, while he was at pains to state that The National was a paper "designed to pursue Independence" before reading out its headline. I started listening to R4 a few months ago, as R Scotland is so horribly parochial, but when the presenters venture out of their London or Manchester ghettos, you do wonder how much of a clue they really have. eta - they just interviewed people in Dingwall, and - rather oddly - found 3 people who could only say that the entire time had been a shambles, nothing worked, something about ferries and that we need an election. Doesnt appear to be reflective of the national mood, or I imagine the mood in Dingwall................. Edited April 30 by Leith Green 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Leith Green said: R4 Nick Robinson is in Edinburgh today, and they just went over the Scottish newspaper headlines (as if papers are in some way the main method that people consume news). He was almost giggling at the Herald editorial slagging off HY departure, while he was at pains to state that The National was a paper "designed to pursue Independence" before reading out its headline. Reciting from newspapers gives a false legitimacy to all of them. Most are owned by Tory loving tax exiles and maybe that should be pointed out before reading from them. Edited April 30 by Fullerene 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, tamthebam said: BBC Radio 4 report tonight: They went to a Scottish town to gauge opinion regarding Humza's resignation: Glasgow? Dundee? Aberdeen? No, it was Dumfries. Solid Tory Dumfries. And the people they stopped all had non-Dumfries accents and sounded English to my mind. To be fair rather than getting "Hooray, the end of the SNP. Rule Britannia" type opinions the most strident opinion was "they're all useless". Hardly an endorsement of Ross, Sarwar or Cole-Hamilton really. "They are all useless" is a ploy to start a narrative to get rid of the Scottish Parliament altogether and have all decisions made in London. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: "They are all useless" is a ploy to start a narrative to get rid of the Scottish Parliament altogether and have all decisions made in London. That's the same argument for dissolving parliament in Westminster too. If we're going to get rid of the chancing shysters, might as well clear house altogether and allow free rein to the high heid chancing shysters at Buck House. Just think of the money we'd save that could be pumped into the NHS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, Fullerene said: "They are all useless" is a ploy to start a narrative to get rid of the Scottish Parliament altogether and have all decisions made in London. The tories right when a Scottish Parliament was first suggested were dead against it and have continued attacking Holyrood ever since, I put it down to the tory imperialists who as their colonies went Independent away from westminster ruling saw Scotland as their last colony. As a wee aside, some time back I used to fly regularly from London to Inverness, at the Heathrow gate passengers behaved as we all do when waiting by either quietly reading or having a quiet chat with the people beside them, however that dramatically changed when the same english people arrived at the Baggage carousel at Inverness airport then it was all very much raised voices with many expressing upper class english as if they wanted the locals to know they were gentry, embarrassing themselves without knowing it. Edited April 30 by SandyCromarty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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