diegomarahenry Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, HMIP said: I can only tell you what McCall said at the time. Rose had signed his pre-contract and Muirhead, perhaps unexpectedly, became available so McCall brought him in saying he was part of the future planning. Our 3rd centre back at the time was Jamie Adams who was really starting to toil with injuries, so not that surprising we brought in Roscoe as a young centre back who could hopefully be developed in a similar way to Rose. Bell wasn’t getting any younger either. In any case, comparisons between Muirhead and McGinty are a nonsense. Muirhead had a solid career at our level before coming to Ayr, winning the league with Partick and playing with them in the Premiership. He seemed to get swept up in the general malaise at Falkirk with their fans somehow turning on one of the few guys who likely gave a f**k as they slid towards League 1. McGinty is just a bang average player - I seriously doubt both the Partick and Morton fans are wrong about him. I don't remember to much displeasure at signing Muirhead, a lot of Falkirk fans slated Kerr when we signed him so folk just assumed they would be wrong about him as well. McGinty has been universally hated at Thistle and Morton. Sometimes a move can just not work out for a player, Like Trouten at Ayr, Sam McGivern, Colin McGlashin, Tommy Bryce, All players that scored for fun at other clubs until they arrived at Ayr. But to be rotten at two clubs, consistently will be a hard habit to break. The mood of fans on here certainly was, as long as he doesn't sign McGinty. He is going to have to put in some great performances to win the fans over, Hopkin signed him so that pressure will be on both of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: I don't remember to much displeasure at signing Muirhead, a lot of Falkirk fans slated Kerr when we signed him so folk just assumed they would be wrong about him as well. McGinty has been universally hated at Thistle and Morton. Sometimes a move can just not work out for a player, Like Trouten at Ayr, Sam McGivern, Colin McGlashin, Tommy Bryce, All players that scored for fun at other clubs until they arrived at Ayr. But to be rotten at two clubs, consistently will be a hard habit to break. The mood of fans on here certainly was, as long as he doesn't sign McGinty. He is going to have to put in some great performances to win the fans over, Hopkin signed him so that pressure will be on both of them. The thing that strikes me from some of the posts on here is that there is an inability at times to distinguish legitimate concerns about a signing and criticism that is just OTT. Doolan is a classic example. The Partick fans told us his legs had gone, but anyone on here who wondered out loud if that might be a worry for us was given the usual “give the guy a chance” line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) The wildest thing about McGinty is we actually signed him with a view to playing in the Premiership, he'd agreed to sign before the Livi playoff. That would have been some laugh. Muirhead was very good for us in the second tier, just wasn't up to it in the top division, so I doubt there would have been much derision from Thistle fans at the time. I think the vast majority of fans on here are honest when it comes to appraisals of their team's former players, you'll get the odd "LOL HE'S SHITE!!!!!" regardless from the odd individual but most others provide more reasonable verdicts. Edited June 25, 2021 by Fuctifano 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, HMIP said: The thing that strikes me from some of the posts on here is that there is an inability at times to distinguish legitimate concerns about a signing and criticism that is just OTT. Doolan is a classic example. The Partick fans told us his legs had gone, but anyone on here who wondered out loud if that might be a worry for us was given the usual “give the guy a chance” line. No one knows how McGinty will perform for Ayr. Maybe the pressure and being coached by Jim Duffy will be the perfect storm for him and he'll have a great time. Or, he turns on the usual performances that stunk out Greenock last season. There is no surprise that Ayr fans favourite times were when we played attacking football on the deck. The McCleod era, the Daziel days of Hurst, Teal, Lyons, Kerrigan, Ferguson and Horace, The McCall Era of Shankland, Moore and Moffat, Where the likes of Burley and the long balls to Graham, The Reid era of 6 at the back are not thought of as fondly. Hopkin has set his stall out to play a brand of football that has never been popular at Ayr and has signed players that have not been particularly successful elsewhere. He is making a gamble that may pay off but it will have to pay off very quickly or fans are going to be vocal about it. He didn't need to do it, we are not struggling like the days of Roberts or Connor or Reid, we have a budget, we could have signed 4 players in May that have proven their use in the lower end of the premier top end of the Championship. Signed wide players, signalled an intention of playing passing football. He didn't so he is either convinced that this will work or he has no ideas what to do other than this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 No one knows how McGinty will perform for Ayr. Maybe the pressure and being coached by Jim Duffy will be the perfect storm for him and he'll have a great time. Or, he turns on the usual performances that stunk out Greenock last season. There is no surprise that Ayr fans favourite times were when we played attacking football on the deck. The McCleod era, the Daziel days of Hurst, Teal, Lyons, Kerrigan, Ferguson and Horace, The McCall Era of Shankland, Moore and Moffat, Where the likes of Burley and the long balls to Graham, The Reid era of 6 at the back are not thought of as fondly. Hopkin has set his stall out to play a brand of football that has never been popular at Ayr and has signed players that have not been particularly successful elsewhere. He is making a gamble that may pay off but it will have to pay off very quickly or fans are going to be vocal about it. He didn't need to do it, we are not struggling like the days of Roberts or Connor or Reid, we have a budget, we could have signed 4 players in May that have proven their use in the lower end of the premier top end of the Championship. Signed wide players, signalled an intention of playing passing football. He didn't so he is either convinced that this will work or he has no ideas what to do other than this. Think this is pretty fair actually.We've heard talk of this "project" of Smith's (without hearing exactly what it entails and over how long a timeframe), and Hopkin has spoken out loud about it all being about the win.We tread that line of being starved of top flight football for so long that I wouldn't care if we invented a completely new brand of stinking shit-house football if it got us up.If we're playing awful football come, say November, and are already scrapping at the bottom, fan patience will likely be worn thin, if not gone completely.Then what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc93 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 TNS have put a team sheet up for themselves on twitter so assume it's either a half 1 or 2 o'clock kick off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 Trialist, 2 of them keepers though - and who is Bilham? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHonestman1910 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 No McAdams which is interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, honestly united said: 5 Trialist, 2 of them keepers though - and who is Bilham? Youngster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc93 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, honestly united said: 5 Trialist, 2 of them keepers though - and who is Bilham? A few missing, hopefully no injuries though. Kinlay Bilham is a defender from the academy. Was involved in pre-season last year before going on loan to Irvine Vics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 No McAdams which is interesting Or McAlister 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diege Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, THEHonestman1910 said: No McAdams which is interesting Hopkin is fully aware of McAdams abilities, this is time to find someone to push him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Wonder if anyone has went along to see the game from near Asda. Would be intrigued to know who the 2 trialist gks are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Going by the TNS twitter feed, the game started at 1.30. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 It's comforting to know that after all the excitement of the Euro's, that the normal day to day stuff is back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Hursty said: It's comforting to know that after all the excitement of the Euro's, that the normal day to day stuff is back Jack Baird has just scored. At the right end. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, RedEd said: Jack Baird has just scored. At the right end. Ah. So normality lasted roughly 10 mins then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hursty said: Ah. So normality lasted roughly 10 mins then! There's plenty of time for that yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrunitedfw Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, RedEd said: Jack Baird has just scored. At the right end. We’re going to win the lot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Video of the goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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