Granny Danger Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Sturgeon spot on with her criticism of Burnham. Trying to boost his own profile. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Sturgeon spot on with her criticism of Burnham. Trying to boost his own profile.Of course it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: The issue appears incredibly complex but is very simple. There are people in the Labour Party who should not be in the Labour Party. The Labour Party is a left-of-centre political party. For years it has been infiltrated by people who are not left-of-centre. Some of them are careerists, others are simply agent provocateurs. There’s a few pro-Zionists who fall into the latter category. If I was a careerist then infiltrating the Labour Party sounds about the least interesting career I could possibly imagine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Fullerene said: If I was a careerist then infiltrating the Labour Party sounds about the least interesting career I could possibly imagine. Maybe not interesting but potentially lucrative. Potentially very, very lucrative. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TAFKAM said: I think you and I both agree on this but probably have wildly different groups of people in mind when we think about who these might be. Probably in all honesty, nevertheless he was never going to stand a chance with the Media in this country even if that hadn't happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Actually I have changed my mind. "Infiltrator" sounds like a pretty cool thing to have on my passport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 The one thing I'll give Corbyn is he was so divisive we probably have another 5-10 years minimum left where we can happily go over the same arguments and not get bored. He's a great topic for an easy rustle for people on both sides. The one serious opinion I will offer is that I don't think the media are to blame for his failures, it's a cop out and gets used far too much as being THE reason why he continually failed. It was part of a long list of reasons but isn't the silver bullet some try and frame it as. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 One thing that's strange to look back on is the focus on Corbyn's appearance and public speaking skills. At the time compared to Cameron he did seem rough and ready but look at what we have had since. By the end of her term May looked like she was constantly on tranquilisers, Gove and Boris are visible alcoholics and Hancock can't maintain the coherence of any sentence more than 15 words. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Aye, nobody gets to claim that an unkempt appearance is a hurdle for politicians anymore. We're only a couple of years away from Prime Minister Rees-Mogg rocking up to the Commons in his Victorian sleepwear and eating his breakfast kippers from the lectern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 hours ago, Fullerene said: If I was a careerist then infiltrating the Labour Party sounds about the least interesting career I could possibly imagine. You get to meet some really interesting people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBear Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Have to say I like Sarwar, but the party Scotland and UK wide is a bit of an earthquake zone. Forgot their roots. Trying to be all things to all men in these divisive woke times doesn't work. Sarwar has a chance to build something in Scotland, but the UK wise it's civil war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 This thread is worth a look. Kieth preparing his own Gotterdammerung. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: This thread is worth a look. Kieth preparing his own Gotterdammerung. He's completely fucked. The hierarchy of racism coming back to haunt them in Batley and Spen and their doubling down on it, poor in Hartlepool and Amersham, tanking numbers nationally, filling these roles with presumably whoever Mandelson recommends. Can't lay a glove on Johnson. Turns out Guardian Columnists are not a good barometer for what people will vote for Edited June 24, 2021 by Genuine Hibs Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Including Ken Livingstone is class even if it is the correct decision for London mayors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Batley and Spen by election. Edited June 28, 2021 by Stormzy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Avon Barksdale said: Shakin' Stevens is a bit of a left-field shout, but fair enough. Couldn't do any worse than Hancock at health. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I can't believe that George Galloway is respected in England. What a place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) He is an absolutely OFTW. Seem to recall he got in trouble for calling Salmond a nazi, then left Labour and decided to back independence after Brexit, then joined the SNP and has now left that in a huff over something as well. (don't send the gangsters Mike, just kidding) Edited June 29, 2021 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 He is an absolutely OFTW. Seem to recall he got in trouble for calling Salmond a nazi, then left Labour and decided to back independence after Brexit, then joined the SNP and has now left that in a huff over something as well. (don't send the gangsters Mike, just kidding) Utter twat of a man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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