Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 hours ago, virginton said: I don't think you know how ferries work champ. It's a simple question, champ. Which Polish yard specialises in hydrogen powered ferries? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: It's a simple question, champ. Which Polish yard specialises in hydrogen powered ferries? I don't know and I don't care. What has that got to do with the bungled Cal Mac ferry order at Fergusons, which were to be powered by, erm, diesel and liquified natural gas and not hydrogen in any way whatsoever? Edited July 4, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, virginton said: I don't know and I don't care. What has that got to do with the bungled Cal Mac ferry order at Fergusons, which were to be powered by, erm, diesel and liquified natural gas and not hydrogen in any way whatsoever? Ok, which Polish yard specialises in that? And that's not the only ferry being built. http://www.scottishenergynews.com/scottish-shipyard-to-build-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-sea-going-ferry-on-the-lower-clyde-with-eu-green-funding/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish-class_ferry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Ok, which Polish yard specialises in that? They don't need to specialise in it: the plans were devised and companies bid for the work. And in this case the company that was awarded the work has made an utter, rip-roaring c**t of the job - so evidently not 'specialised' in the task at all - yet gets away with wasting taxpayers' money and undermining crucial public transport links for years. Quote And that's not the only ferry being built. http://www.scottishenergynews.com/scottish-shipyard-to-build-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-sea-going-ferry-on-the-lower-clyde-with-eu-green-funding/ I couldn't give a toss about that tbh, but given that the article boasts that they'd be rolling off a vessel in 2020 we can safely add that to the list of utter fail when using that useless 'but Scottish' shipyard. Edited July 4, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Jamaica isn't violent just look at Bob Marley! David Lammy is very possibly the thickest MP. On building in the UK , EU rules don't allow governments to include the multiplier effect of commissioning work in your country and the effective discount on cost due to all the tax coming straight back. It's absolutely insane not to try and commission domestically as much as possible. The ferries have been a shambles but that is down it being a one off political point scoring commission rather than being part of a coordinated long term plan of rebuilding Scottish/UK industrial capacity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, TAFKAM said: Can't imagine what would cause VT to suddenly be really in favour of maintaining expensive public transport so people can live in remote areas despite everything contrary to this notion that he's said in the past about this exact topic. Anyway I'm off to read the Scottish Islands thread. You should try reading for the same of comprehension, because there's a pretty fundamental difference between 'maintaining and improving public transport for everyone' (a collective good) and 'bending over backwards to meet the needs of commuters and/or private car owners' (two collective blights). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) You can prefer to think whatever you want champ. The reality is that island connections have been rendered an absolute farce all year long because of Cal-Mac's ageing fleet and having no spare capacity to speak of to deal with breakdowns because of the continued, utter failure of Ferguson's to build some fucking boats as required. The overwhelming losers from this situation are in fact the residents of the Scottish islands themselves, who have been living under this omnishambles all year round and have been excluded in the special pleading from Jim McColl and countless other roasters about the harm done to the shipyard, when they should have had the plug pulled and the job given to a competent foreign firm ages ago. That's what happens when governments try to pick local winners and overlook questions of competence. Edited July 4, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, virginton said: They don't need to specialise in it: the plans were devised and companies bid for the work. Devised by Ferguson, actually. Apparently they started construction before the blueprints were complete. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49042833 4 hours ago, virginton said: And in this case the company that was awarded the work has made an utter, rip-roaring c**t of the job - so evidently not 'specialised' in the task at all - yet gets away with wasting taxpayers' money and undermining crucial public transport links for years. I get that, I just don't know why you think Poland doesn't have any shitty shipbuilders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2354911/exclusive-scottish-labour-calls-for-troops-on-the-streets-to-fight-covid-surge/ Send the army round the doors looking for the unvaccinated. When the history is written of Scotland s journey to independence there will need to several chapters dedicated to the raw luck the SNP had in who their opposition were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2354911/exclusive-scottish-labour-calls-for-troops-on-the-streets-to-fight-covid-surge/ Send the army round the doors looking for the unvaccinated. When the history is written of Scotland s journey to independence there will need to several chapters dedicated to the raw luck the SNP had in who their opposition were. They are absolutely as thick as pigshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 5 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2354911/exclusive-scottish-labour-calls-for-troops-on-the-streets-to-fight-covid-surge/ Send the army round the doors looking for the unvaccinated. When the history is written of Scotland s journey to independence there will need to several chapters dedicated to the raw luck the SNP had in who their opposition were. Not sure allowing the army to shoot unvaccinated people is the right approach but a trial run of two weeks to monitor the impact might be the best way to evaluate it. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 08:37, Elric said: What has this to do with ship building? It's just a rumour that was spread around town by the women and children. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 12 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2354911/exclusive-scottish-labour-calls-for-troops-on-the-streets-to-fight-covid-surge/ Send the army round the doors looking for the unvaccinated. When the history is written of Scotland s journey to independence there will need to several chapters dedicated to the raw luck the SNP had in who their opposition were. Home visits is not the worst idea I’ve heard. Anyone who lives in Dundee is clearly not of right mind and special treatment should permissible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Not sure allowing the army to shoot unvaccinated people is the right approach but a trial run of two weeks to monitor the impact might be the best way to evaluate it.I'm only half vaccinated, presumably I'll just get kneecapped or something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I don't see what the issue is? Basically speeding up the process by asking people on the doorstep if they want one, how could that possibly be a bad thing? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Stormzy said: I don't see what the issue is? Basically speeding up the process by asking people on the doorstep if they want one, how could that possibly be a bad thing? Yeah but if the army showed up in a tank at my front door, I might feel a little bit intimidated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Yeah but if the army showed up in a tank at my front door, I might feel a little bit intimidated. That’s my view too. No tanks. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Blootoon87 said: 16 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Not sure allowing the army to shoot unvaccinated people is the right approach but a trial run of two weeks to monitor the impact might be the best way to evaluate it. I'm only half vaccinated, presumably I'll just get kneecapped or something? No you’ll still get shot but you’ll get a blindfold first.* *Subject to availability. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TAFKAM said: Getting taken along for my second jag in a a chieftain tank would be class. Using the machine gun on the top to fire syringes at people. Edited July 6, 2021 by Thumper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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