Hursty Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Looking at the odds on Bet365 again I don't get their logic. Dobbie favourite for First / Anytime scorer makes sense - but Craig Moore 2nd favourite certainly doesnt. And Shankland is joint third favourite, same price as QoS player Declan Tremble, who according to Flashscores has only had 2 sub appearances this season and 0 goals. Watch this come back to haunt me when Tremble bags the opener inside 5 mins haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Looking at the odds on Bet365 again I don't get their logic. Dobbie favourite for First / Anytime scorer makes sense - but Craig Moore 2nd favourite certainly doesnt. And Shankland is joint third favourite, same price as QoS player Declan Tremble, who according to Flashscores has only had 2 sub appearances this season and 0 goals. Watch this come back to haunt me when Tremble bags the opener inside 5 mins hahaDoubt tremble will even get on the pitch . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hursty said: Looking at the odds on Bet365 again I don't get their logic. Dobbie favourite for First / Anytime scorer makes sense - but Craig Moore 2nd favourite certainly doesnt. And Shankland is joint third favourite, same price as QoS player Declan Tremble, who according to Flashscores has only had 2 sub appearances this season and 0 goals. Watch this come back to haunt me when Tremble bags the opener inside 5 mins haha Tremble has had two sub appearances for about 10 mins in his entire career, plus he started our Irn Bru Cup tie v Stenhousemuir and was subbed off about the hour mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Can't speak for Tremble but Moore/Shankland prices will include a % for Shankland being sold, I'd expect those to change after the window shuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Can't speak for Tremble but Moore/Shankland prices will include a % for Shankland being sold, I'd expect those to change after the window shuts. Why would they do that? If he doesn't play he'd be refunded on a non-runner basis. I get that the possibility may slightly affect Moore's odds as there's a better chance of him actually playing but I can't see why Shankland's odds would be affected a single iota . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Bet365 are usually good value in the GS field because they can be hopeless. I think they just find out a player's position and put up odds accordingly. Last season there were players listed to score for us that had left the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said: Bet365 are usually good value in the GS field because they can be hopeless. I think they just find out a player's position and put up odds accordingly. Last season there were players listed to score for us that had left the club. Yes, the Scottish lower league markets don't take a sufficient amount of cash to merit any sort of research on their part. This was patently obvious with their "league winners" market where they just used the previous years league standings including promotion from League 1 and relegation from the Premier to determine the prices. We need to understand that in Scotland we are looked upon as below the English conference (vanarama premier) with regards to importance and the coverage / interest in us, reflects this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Yes, the Scottish lower league markets don't take a sufficient amount of cash to merit any sort of research on their part. This was patently obvious with their "league winners" market where they just used the previous years league standings including promotion from League 1 and relegation from the Premier to determine the prices. We need to understand that in Scotland we are looked upon as below the English conference (vanarama premier) with regards to importance and the coverage / interest in us, reflects this.It suits me down to the ground. When Dobbie returned he was 33/1 to be too goalscorer. For first goalscorer he's been long at times as well. It's not an exaggeration that that man has won me over £1000 since his return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Why would they do that? If he doesn't play he'd be refunded on a non-runner basis. I get that the possibility may slightly affect Moore's odds as there's a better chance of him actually playing but I can't see why Shankland's odds would be affected a single iota . I don't know for sure but I do think that's the reason, maybe hoping a few £50 bets either way tells them if Shanks might be leaving, I'd assume the volume bet before the end of the window is very small compared to matchday, I just can't see anyone being so incompetent in this instance, I'm hearing Shankland everywhere, surely they'd be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, ayrmad said: I don't know for sure but I do think that's the reason, maybe hoping a few £50 bets either way tells them if Shanks might be leaving, I'd assume the volume bet before the end of the window is very small compared to matchday, I just can't see anyone being so incompetent in this instance, I'm hearing Shankland everywhere, surely they'd be the same. No, it's peanuts in real terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TOPFITTER Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just hope McCall doesn’t set someone up to “Man Mark” Dobbie !!![emoji856] or all the good work could be undone [emoji17]2:2 draw for me [emoji460]️[emoji460]️[emoji460]️[emoji460]️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hursty Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I think they must base it as a start on squad numbers. Moore and Andy Ryan were the favourites for Ayr and Dunfermline last week - Moore never starts and Ryan rarely does for the Pars (although did in this case), but both wear number 9. My group of pals must be at least £5k up on Shankland related bets this season on B365 already yet it's same every week. 2 or more goals v Dundee was 18/1 with them but only 7/1 or something with Skybet as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 That’s why I very rarely bet with McBookie. They’re more aware of players like Shankland and Dobbie so you’re going to get more accurate odds on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 55 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Yes, the Scottish lower league markets don't take a sufficient amount of cash to merit any sort of research on their part. This was patently obvious with their "league winners" market where they just used the previous years league standings including promotion from League 1 and relegation from the Premier to determine the prices. We need to understand that in Scotland we are looked upon as below the English conference (vanarama premier) with regards to importance and the coverage / interest in us, reflects this. Very little research is done by most bookies these days on any markets and most prices come via betfair or are computer generated. With examples like Shankland scoring every week it’s best to skip between the bookies each week and don’t always take too price. These markets stick out and if a trend is spotted or you win too much then your account is closed pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nithsdale Wanderer Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 At the moment, Ayr have got what we have experienced in recent years - a real buzz and feel-good factor around their Club. They should enjoy it as long as it lasts, just as we did. I'm not getting into any " who is the bigger Club nonsense" but I think there are a lot of parallels between the Clubs as we have both had long periods in the doldrums interspersed with periodic , relative success. Somerset is, and always will be, my favourite away ground - probably to do with THAT Cup-tie n 1976 when we took 2,500 and witnessed heroics from the late, great Allan Ball. It is a traditional, old fashioned ground like Palmerston and generates a great atmosphere. Should be a very entertaining game on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Absolute classic to be talked about for years to come. QOS 6-6 Ayr, Dobbie and Shankland with all the goals Or... Narrow 1 nil win for ayr, with Jamie Adams putting in a hero display at centre back to control dobbie I can't call which scenario it will be tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Everyone fit and available for selection for us. Maybe see the return of Higgins off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Everyone fit and available for selection for us. Maybe see the return of Higgins off the bench. The man, The myth, The LEGEND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 The man, The myth, The LEGEND Captain Clipboard himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 We have had a good few false starts under GN - following up on great away results has proved to be a real challenge. Our home record continues to be pretty awful so we have a lot to prove.Like everybody else who witnessed our performance at Falkirk I came away thinking that when we play like that we are as good, if not better than any team in this league. The problem has been replicating it at home and winning these bigger games when supporter expectation has risen.There is definitely a glass ceiling above GN and his squad - delivering a good performance and winning this game would go a long way to persuading some of us that we are potentially a different proposition to what we have been in past 2 seasons.It will be tough but we really have to start winning these close matches especially at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.