theoriginalhedge Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, true_rover said: 4 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: It was a dogs breakfast of a proposal written on the back of a fag packet in 2 weeks just like the Brechin proposal is too. It really would not be hard to have a 12 team league 2 this season and that gives a whole year to come up with a properly thought out reconstruction plan where Clubs can all participate inc HL and LL. Just needs leadership from SFA and SPFL Except if you give a year to come up with a proposal, it will still be naturally voted on with self interest based on where teams are - a proposal would have to come before the season started. Exactly this . The clubs had a chance to put contingency plans in place for this season right at the start but decided on a clusterfuck , suck it and see version. Is it any wonder that Brechin, with their possible existence in question, try their luck by throwing a begging letter into the clusterfuck pot ? This is not in any way defending that letter or the ridiculous timing of it , but merely pointing out the situation we now find ourselves in through a lack of leadership....................... . Clubs again contemplating legal action and Brora and Kelty not knowing if they can play their play off matches the day before the first leg. As has been mentioned earlier , the silence from the SPFL executive is deafening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretCEO Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: Exactly this . The clubs had a chance to put contingency plans in place for this season right at the start but decided on a clusterfuck , suck it and see version. Is it any wonder that Brechin, with their possible existence in question, try their luck by throwing a begging letter into the clusterfuck pot ? This is not in any way defending that letter or the ridiculous timing of it , but merely pointing out the situation we now find ourselves in through a lack of leadership....................... . Clubs again contemplating legal action and Brora and Kelty not knowing if they can play their play off matches the day before the first leg. As has been mentioned earlier , the silence from the SPFL executive is deafening. The longer it goes without a decision, the more I think they'll be taking the pragmatic approach: given all the unforseen unfairnesses over the past two seasons, they should be fair to all three clubs by enlarging League Two to 12 teams to accommodate them all. None of them is at fault here. Just to add, since it's mentioned above that it's not known if the playoffs are going ahead tomorrow - they're not. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/3071707/brora-rangers-kelty-hearts-spfl/amp/ I assumed you lot would have known already. Sorry. Edited April 23, 2021 by SecretCEO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 My money is on the play offs not happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo83 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, RH33 said: My money is on the play offs not happening. A think you could be correct,Ken Ferguson pulling the strings then steps down from his position,he knew exactly what was going on but came away with some pish how he wanted to concentrate on Brechin not finishing bottom of league 2 that's why he stepped down.All a bit sneaky from Brechin board member's doesn't sit well withe at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, mo83 said: A think you could be correct,Ken Ferguson pulling the strings then steps down from his position,he knew exactly what was going on but came away with some pish how he wanted to concentrate on Brechin not finishing bottom of league 2 that's why he stepped down.All a bit sneaky from Brechin board member's doesn't sit well withe at all. Only absolute morons ever thought that Ken Ferguson was 'pulling the strings' at the SPFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SecretCEO said: The longer it goes without a decision, the more I think they'll be taking the pragmatic approach: given all the unforseen unfairnesses over the past two seasons, they should be fair to all three clubs by enlarging League Two to 12 teams to accommodate them all. None of them is at fault here. Just to add, since it's mentioned above that it's not known if the playoffs are going ahead tomorrow - they're not. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/3071707/brora-rangers-kelty-hearts-spfl/amp/ I assumed you lot would have known already. Sorry. There was nothing unfair about Brechin finishing bottom yet again. The playoffs should go ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: Is it any wonder that Brechin, with their possible existence in question, try their luck by throwing a begging letter into the clusterfuck pot ? This is not in any way defending that letter or the ridiculous timing of it , but merely pointing out the situation we now find ourselves in through a lack of leadership................... In what way is Brechin City's "possible existence" being put "in question" by your third relegation in four years? Be extremely specific; or otherwise get fucking doon. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SecretCEO said: None of them is at fault here. You seem to have mistaken a business arbitration for a competitive sporting league. Are you a spokesperson for the European Super League by any chance? In what way are Brechin less 'at fault' for their circumstances than Berwick Rangers or East Stirlingshire in the same position? Or indeed Alloa two levels above them? Complete and utter birthday caird, anti-competition pish. Edited April 23, 2021 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, virginton said: In what way is Brechin City's "possible existence" being put "in question" by your third relegation in four years? Be extremely specific; or otherwise get fucking doon. Your tone is extremely condescending if you don't mind me saying. Edited April 23, 2021 by theoriginalhedge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, theoriginalhedge said: Your tone is extremely condescending if you don't mind me saying. Condescend: to show that one feels superior. Given that your football club contrived to win the grand total of zero out of fucking 36 league games the last time you washed up in the same division as The Famous, I'd say that superiority is more than merited. So back to the question then: in what way is Brechin City's "possible existence" being put in question by your third relegation in four years? Edited April 23, 2021 by vikingTON -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Run Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If the SPFL were minded to stay neutral and allow Brechin their route of appeal via arbritration, dates would have been announced for these games. What we know is that the league were due to get legal advice by today. My impression is that they will now seek to cancel the playoffs via the rulebook or via temporary League 2 reconstruction. The fact that this situation wasn't forseen & planned for when the league returned is a joke quite frankly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Only absolute morons ever thought that Ken Ferguson was 'pulling the strings' at the SPFL. He was clearly wielding a fair bit of influence given that he managed to get the Board to go to the lengths of trying to move the Highland/Lowland boundary to suit his club, and now hasn't immediately been laughed out of the room with his pathetic attempt at dodging relegation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Team in Angus Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, craigkillie said: He was clearly wielding a fair bit of influence given that he managed to get the Board to go to the lengths of trying to move the Highland/Lowland boundary to suit his club, and now hasn't immediately been laughed out of the room with his pathetic attempt at dodging relegation. Don Ken Ferguson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo83 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Only absolute morons ever thought that Ken Ferguson was 'pulling the strings' at the SPFL. So he had no influence at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true fan Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 9 hours ago, virginton said: Be extremely specific; or otherwise get fucking doon. 7 hours ago, virginton said: Condescend: to show that one feels superior. Given that your football club contrived to win the grand total of zero out of fucking 36 league games the last time you washed up in the same division as The Famous, I'd say that superiority is more than merited. Isn’t it sad when somebody lives their life through their football team thats why so many support the old firm but ... morton? morton? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, craigkillie said: He was clearly wielding a fair bit of influence given that he managed to get the Board to go to the lengths of trying to move the Highland/Lowland boundary to suit his club, and now hasn't immediately been laughed out of the room with his pathetic attempt at dodging relegation. Subtlety doesn't exist for some people. It's either that he ruled with an iron fist or he sat in the corner quietly taking minutes and making the coffees, no in between. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaswork Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 The playoff will be cancelled enjoy non league football for another season Kelly and brora you really aren't wanted and next season at this time it will be the same again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom & Gerry Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 He had influence in the fact that he was on the committee and in a position to suggest/push his agenda. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dougie Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 From what I am hearing this guy Kevin Mackie has a few friends at some clubs, and has been leaning heavily on them to back Brechin’s cause. Looks like those friends are on the SPFL board, pathetic really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Born To Run said: If the SPFL were minded to stay neutral and allow Brechin their route of appeal via arbritration, dates would have been announced for these games. What we know is that the league were due to get legal advice by today. My impression is that they will now seek to cancel the playoffs via the rulebook or via temporary League 2 reconstruction. The fact that this situation wasn't forseen & planned for when the league returned is a joke quite frankly. This joke of a situation is a result of the clubs not being willing to agree to forming a contingency plan at the start of the season as suggested by the SPFL executive. This was pointed out by many on here at the time as the pandemic wasn't going to just suddenly disappear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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