Rob1885 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 That's was the case, its no longer the case. An extended household is one where two households have joined together to form a single household. An extended household can be formed by a person who lives alone - or only with children under 18. They and another household of any size can agree to form an extended household. An extended household can also be formed by a couple who do not live together, and their children.My understanding is that if you live alone you could see your bird and your parents separately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 It follows the section for people living alone and isn't explicit about if either party lives with other adults. I think it takes a generous view to say that couples who live with other adults can meet up without physical distancing - I think it makes sense for couples living apart should be staying apart for now especially as the cases are rising. Sturgeon explicitly said in her briefing last week that non-cohabiting couples continue to be exempt from the “no indoor gatherings” rule If that wasn’t the case, the non-cohabiting couples rule would be redundant as the previous guidance applies to ALL adults who live alone/with only children. There’s a reason why there’s a separate section for couples, and that reason is that they’re exempt even if they live with other adults. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, 101 said: Need is a dangerous word - that suggests an addiction and should result in folk seeking help before one bottle becomes 2 Yes it should. How many people are seeking "help" for issues with alcohol, particularly during a pandemic? What help is available for the millions of people in this country who, to some extent, rely on alcohol if they all suddenly seek help at the same time? They'll all wake up and realise alcohol is bad and thank WhiteRoseKillie for his P6-level solutions once they've sobered up. ^^^ Reading WhiteRose's posts on the UK's drugs and alcohol problem. Dear Lord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: "Good idea" may have been the wrong phrase. Correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: This is coming along well today. I was going to continue the 70s theme by going out for the September weekend, if I do, you all play nice. Stay away from the devil's liquor if you do -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 South Africa did an alcohol ban I’m sure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 It doesn't suggest, it absolutely defines. Physical or psychological, there's a problem.Millions of people addicted to alcohol but its ok because taxes.Drinking is macho and cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 South Africa did an alcohol ban I’m sure They did, was to take pressure off their health service as alcohol related hospital admissions are off the scale usually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Yes it should. How many people are seeking "help" for issues with alcohol, particularly during a pandemic? What help is available for the millions of people in this country who, to some extent, rely on alcohol if they all suddenly seek help at the same time? They'll all wake up and realise alcohol is bad and thank WhiteRoseKillie for his P6-level solutions once they've sobered up. Depends - just under 3rd of Scots drank more under lockdown - if that's a coping strategy for dealing with the stress and strain of a pandemic, its understandable - if it continued after the pandemic for lifes other stresses then its an issue and should be spoken about. Help is available in a number of guises - speak to your pals/ family. Speak to your GP. Seek private help https://www.alcoholrecoveryscotland.co.uk/ https://www.help4addiction.co.uk/find-rehab-clinic/drug-alcohol-rehab-scotland/ Help from national charities https://www.alcohol-focus-scotland.org.uk/ The Scottish Government has issued funding to some of the above https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-support-for-alcohol-and-drug-services/ Everyone who has a problem with alcohol is unlikely to go down one route for help and support and the existing structures would struggle at first but would eventually clear. It would be impossible to collate the numbers of people seeking help, due to the range of help available. I expect if WRK's plan was actually ever considered some people probably would realise they have a problem - the problem is unlikely to be resolved however by a ban in the sale of alcohol and more likely push the most vulnerable into the arms of organised criminal gangs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: Yass the toilet roll is running out. And thats still with a limit of how many you can buy. The government should ban toilet roll. Will stop people going out to buy it and slow the spread of the virus imvho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Bad news: Hospital numbers and ICU numbers upGood news: A drop in cases in the last couple of days and %. I know Monday is low generally but Sunday has sometimes produced the biggest number of the week. And this Monday’s number is smaller than before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 They’re decommissioning the SEC hospital. Clearly the “second wave” can’t be worrying them too much then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The government should ban toilet roll. Will stop people going out to buy it and slow the spread of the virus imvho.Best solution is free bidets for every household. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 "Men and young 'less likely to follow rules' The government's self-isolation rules mean a person cannot leave their house - even to buy food or other essentials, or to exercise. It requires anyone with symptoms or a positive test result to isolate for 10 days, while members of their household or people who have been contacted by Test and Trace must quarantine for 14 days. The crackdown on self-isolating comes as research carried out for the Department of Health found that the number of people with symptoms following the self-isolation rules was low. Although people's intention to self-isolate was high - about 70% - only 11% of people went into quarantine after being asked to by NHS Test and Trace. The most common reasons that people gave for not self-isolating were because they needed to go to the shops for groceries or a pharmacy or because their symptoms got better. Men and younger people were also less likely to follow the test, trace and isolate guidance, the research added." Maybe they should just lock down the under 45s and let the oldies play like that Simpsons episode: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: They’re decommissioning the SEC hospital. Clearly the “second wave” can’t be worrying them too much then Where you seeing that? I find that remarkable - it flies in the face of everything NS tells us every day at lunchtime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Yes it should. 1. How many people are seeking "help" for issues with alcohol, particularly during a pandemic? 2. What help is available for the millions of people in this country who, to some extent, rely on alcohol if they all suddenly seek help at the same time? 3. They'll all wake up and realise alcohol is bad and thank WhiteRoseKillie for his P6-level solutions once they've sobered up. ^^^ Reading WhiteRose's posts on the UK's drugs and alcohol problem. Dear Lord. 1. No idea. 2. AA, for a start. If that's not your bag, a quick search on the NHS site reveals 14 different service providers within twenty miles of WRK Towers. Other specialist providers help families and children of users who have not themselves sought help. 3. Nice to see I've blagged twenty years of substance-misuse work with the education of a 10-year-old. Now, given that the bad man probably isn't coming after your particular drug of choice, any comment on the fact that the curtailmant of opening hours did not, until this morning, apply to our Lords and Masters? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: 7 minutes ago, Szamo said: The government should ban toilet roll. Will stop people going out to buy it and slow the spread of the virus imvho. Best solution is free bidets for every household. "How do you solve the problem of toilet roll hoarding, Tweaky? " "Bidet...Bidet..Bidet..." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Millions of people addicted to alcohol but its ok because taxes. Drinking is macho and cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Stay away from the devil's liquor if you do All things in moderation is my motto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Millions of people addicted to alcohol but its ok because taxes. Drinking is macho and cool. Fun too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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