Manifesto Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Except they didnt buy anywhere near enough of the present stock of Pfizer and Moderna meaning we kinda did hedge towards the oxford vaccine which still hasnt been approved. If they are going to do combined trials of the Oxford & Sputnik ones, I'd think they got some of the Russian one on order. And probably the Chinese one too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 If they are going to do combined trials of the Oxford & Sputnik ones, I'd think they got some of the Russian one on order. And probably the Chinese one too.It’s the Russians doing the joint trials. They’ve ordered Oxford doses rather then the UK ordering Sputnik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Aye, there’s virtually no chance of mass vaccination happening without Oxford Janssen also has a good chance of being approved and reckon it will be January time. They didn’t buy masses of this but it will help should it arrive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Johnson and Johnson's vaccine should be going for approval in February. UK's got an order of 30 million. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Donathan said: It’s the Russians doing the joint trials. They’ve ordered Oxford doses rather then the UK ordering Sputnik Why, "no". “We offered @AstraZeneca to use one of our vectors so they can also have two vectors in their vaccine. AZ confirmed,” the developers of Sputnik V tweeted Friday. “The new chapter of vaccine cooperation has started today,” another tweet announced. “We made an offer and AstraZeneca accepted it. ^^ Washington Post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Manifesto said: Why, "no". The Russians are doing the trials. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55273907 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The Russians are doing the trials. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55273907 No. Well I suppose they are Russians, but it is AstraZeneca doing the trials. In Russia maybe, but it is AZ doing them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Oscar P said: I have heard that peeing works on nettle stings but hadn’t thought of it being effective against Covid. Oh to be a fly on the wall when the person being pished on hears "aww, f***, it's jellyfish, not nettles isn't it?". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Manifesto said: No. Well I suppose they are Russians, but it is AstraZeneca doing the trials. In Russia maybe, but it is AZ doing them. Astra Zeneca and Oxford will no doubt be working with them, but it looks like the Gamaleya Research Institute will be conducting the trials. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Johnson and Johnson's vaccine should be going for approval in February. UK's got an order of 30 million.Isnt that one the daddy one that will actually make this go away? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 My vaccine guy informs me that the glaxosmithkline effort is pish? No chance of being used in next 9 months. Away to start again.So thats some British technology down the tubes.Not heard Boris on about it yet.Every media outlet would also have told you that over the last 36hrs or so, no need for "the guys". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: Astra Zeneca and Oxford will no doubt be working with them, but it looks like the Gamaleya Research Institute will be conducting the trials. Reuters AstraZeneca said it was considering how it could assess combinations of different vaccines, and would soon begin exploring with Russia's Gamaleya Institute, which developed Sputnik V, whether two vaccines based on a common-cold virus could be successfully combined. It did not give further details. However, its Russian arm said it would start to enrol adults aged 18 and older for the trial. https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-russia/astrazeneca-hitches-ride-with-russias-sputnik-in-vaccine-race-idUSKBN28L0YQ AZ have branches everywhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Isnt that one the daddy one that will actually make this go away? Not sure, but it's the same technology as the Oxford one so storage temperatures shouldn't be a big issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Johnson and Johnson's vaccine should be going for approval in February. UK's got an order of 30 million.How many vaccines is the UK supposed to have on order? 20m Pfizer IIRC, 5m Moderna due Easter time, 30m J&J and something like 50m AZ/Oxford? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 29 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Johnson and Johnson's vaccine should be going for approval in February. UK's got an order of 30 million. How many vaccines is the UK supposed to have on order? 20m Pfizer IIRC, 5m Moderna due Easter time, 30m J&J and something like 50m AZ/Oxford? 350 million apparently. https://www.cityam.com/which-covid-vaccines-has-the-uk-government-ordered/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 So schools in Wales and Germany move to online learning pre-Christmas.Stats suggest teachers in Scotland running at around three times the average Scottish infection rate,the EIS ballots its members to take out grievances against local Councils.Englans offers the option of schools stopping on the 17th. Meanwhile the Sturg continues to say that schools will be the very 'last' places to close,Swinney says that kids have more chance of infection in the 'community's rather than in a cramped building with 1500 others. Govt by Us for Them continues.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jedi said: Stats suggest teachers in Scotland running at around three times the average Scottish infection rate, That is worrying information can you provide the links to the stats? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Stig said: That is worrying information can you provide the links to the stats? EIS disucssion thread on Twitter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jedi said: EIS disucssion thread on Twitter. Sorry but you said the stats show so please show the stats and not a discussion for a union that clearly has a stake in this. Once again please provide link to independent evidence to back up this claim ( I wil accept PHE England or Scotland) as I have not once saw any study that breaks down infections to occupation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) After literally trawling back through hundreds of both Twitter and Facebook posts, connected to the EIS it comes down to an infection rate of around 1 for the community in Scotland and 1.3 proportionately among teachers. Interesting that you choose to focus on one section of this, so assume that you have dismissed the other points as well. Imagine a teacher's union having a stake in the health and wellbeing of pupils and staff. Here is Wales (we know that the virus stops at school gates in Scotland), 3.3% of teachers in Wales had covid last week. Much higher than the rate in the community. How can that stem from low transmission levels? There is not a Scottish version of covid that does not affect schools If it spreads in Welsh schools, it then spreads in Scottish schools More recent data Dec 1st to Dec 9th 2127 out of 52688 Welsh teachers tested positive for covid Infection rate of 4.037%, or 4037 per 100000 Dr Zoë Hyde @DrZoeHyde · Dec 9 Also 1. Updated thread on children & #COVID19, summarising recent research. Summary: further evidence children and adults are equally susceptible, and similarly likely to transmit. Schools have been a driver of the second wave in Europe, Canada, and elsewhere. #edutwitter #auspol Edited December 12, 2020 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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