Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[renton]

So, that most of Europe banned UK travellers? Looks like the French have even banned freight as well. 

[vikingTON]

The brains' trust behind the SG's lockdown are now doing the rounds to explain it and - surprise! - their logic has got more holes in it than a block of Emmental. 

Let's get Sridhar's usual, make your own sunshine and unicorns nonsense out of the way first:

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Prof Devi Sridhar, chairwoman of Global Public Health at Edinburgh University and a Scottish government adviser, said measures to "really crunch" down on the virus were the best way to help the economy.

"We have got to eliminate as much as possible to the lowest level of this virus because that is how we will reopen our economy," she told Sky News' Sophy Ridge on Sunday.

"Scotland was already running a lower infection rate but to go into quite a harsh lockdown over the holiday period, to extend the school holidays, to really try to get those numbers low, I think, I would hope the rest of the UK would follow that model, which is we have got to really crunch this."

 

Except here was me thinking that the new lockdown in Scotland was supposed to deal with an emergency, emergency, super-contagious mutation emergency from instantly overwhelming the country's healthcare system? If that was the case, then why does Sridhar think that tier 4 is not just going to mitigate infection rates but is actually a super opportunity to pursue her pipe dream of elimination yet again? It can't be both at the same fucking time, so the government's chief hawk for more and more restrictions is at odds with its official reasoning for the three week lockdown.

[doulikefish]

12 minutes ago, renton said:

So, that most of Europe banned UK travellers? Looks like the French have even banned freight as well. 

Taking back control 

[philpy]

A couple of the charity shops in musselburgh I often hand stuff into and browse the vinyl records have staff with learning difficulties, I am quite worried about their mental health as the volunteering and social interaction is a lifeline for them. 

[vikingTON]

And then we have the man on the hour himself, the chief clownshoe himself:

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Prof Leitch said the new and more transmissible strain of Covid appeared to have a higher reproduction rate than previous strains.

He said: "We think the R number for this version is 0.4 more than the R number for the other one if you just let it run wild.

"So imagine you have an R number right now of 0.9 - you think you are doing well, numbers are falling, everybody is transmitting to fewer than one other person, you are on the right path, then you get this dominant strain and your R number overnight goes to 1.3 and you get exponential growth and you are in big trouble."

 

Interesting stuff Jason!

1) We now have a clear contradiction between the SG's numbers and the much higher numbers given out at a UK level to show just how scary the new mutation emergency really is. A increase from 0.9 to 1.3 does not make it '70% more infectious'. But as Leitch states that the difference is 0.4 "if you just let it run wild", then the true benchmark that he should be using for this comparison is the R rate for Covid-19 back in March. If we take that to be 3 for neatness' sake, then the difference between 3 and 3.4 is nowhere fucking near the 70% increase!!! from 24 hours ago.

2) A 0.4 increase in the R rate is enlightening. For those playing along at home, can you recall the single sector of activity that SAGE accounts for 0.4 of the existing R rate in the UK as well? Some clues:

- it involves packing hundreds of people inside a building five days a week

- this concentration of multi-family mixing takes place at sites all over the country

- the main infection mitigation strategy for it  involves crossing your fingers to hope that the gate outside acts as a force field to repel the virus

It seems that all we need to do then to overcome the scary mutation emergency emergency then is to punt all scholing where community transmission is taking place into distance learning, which is yeah, what we should have been doing already. Crisis averted!

Edited December 20, 2020 by vikingTON

[Tony Ferrino]

34 minutes ago, renton said:

So, that most of Europe banned UK travellers? Looks like the French have even banned freight as well. 

Europe pulling up the drawbridge.

[Granny Danger]

52 minutes ago, Angusfifer said:

Nicola aborting the 2020-21 Scottish football season would almost be worth the ensuing scenes from the Ibrox mob... 

After all the moaning last season, has the SPFL put in place a protocol for what would happen if the league was stopped prematurely again?

[Granny Danger]

15 minutes ago, virginton said:

And then we have the man on the hour himself, the chief clownshoe himself:

Interesting stuff Jason!

1) We now have a clear contradiction between the SG's numbers and the much higher numbers given out at a UK level to show just how scary the new mutation emergency really is. A increase from 0.9 to 1.3 does not make it '70% more infectious'. But as Leitch states that the difference is 0.4 "if you just let it run wild", then the true benchmark that he should be using for this comparison is the R rate for Covid-19 back in March. If we take that to be 3 for neatness' sake, then the difference between 3 and 3.4 is nowhere fucking near the 70% increase!!! from 24 hours ago.

2) A 0.4 increase in the R rate is enlightening. For those playing along at home, can you recall the single sector of activity that SAGE accounts for 0.4 of the existing R rate in the UK as well? Some clues:

- it involves packing hundreds of people inside a building five days a week

- this concentration of multi-family mixing takes place at sites all over the country

- the main infection mitigation strategy for it  involves crossing your fingers to hope that the gate outside acts as a force field to repel the virus

It seems that all we need to do then to overcome the scary mutation emergency emergency then is to punt all scholing where community transmission is taking place into distance learning, which is yeah, what we should have been doing already. Crisis averted!

 

[Bairnardo]

50 minutes ago, renton said:

So, that most of Europe banned UK travellers? Looks like the French have even banned freight as well. 

Lets get Brexit done, etc

[vikingTON]

17 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

 

 

[Billy Jean King]

The news just had someone explain the 70% more infectious (71 to be precise) line as the virus requiring 71% less viral load emissions for it to transfer from 1 person to another based on current understanding of strains found up to now. If that is correct it's a big issue, would blow current mitigation like 2m distancing and 15 min face to face out the water. Not sure that JL was trying to convey that message correctly if the BBC news explanation is correct.

 

 

[Glen Sannox]

35 minutes ago, philpy said:

A couple of the charity shops in musselburgh I often hand stuff into and browse the vinyl records have staff with learning difficulties, I am quite worried about their mental health as the volunteering and social interaction is a lifeline for them. 

It absolutely is a lifeline and my thoughts are with them. I hope that some sort of provision is in place to keep them connected.

[Thistle_do_nicely]

25 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

After all the moaning last season, has the SPFL put in place a protocol for what would happen if the league was stopped prematurely again?

voted against it being decided solely by the board a few weeks/months ago i think, would be decided the same way as last time around afaik

Edited December 20, 2020 by Thistle_do_nicely

[Wee Bully]

And then we have the man on the hour himself, the chief clownshoe himself:

 

Prof Leitch said the new and more transmissible strain of Covid appeared to have a higher reproduction rate than previous strains.

He said: "We think the R number for this version is 0.4 more than the R number for the other one if you just let it run wild.

"So imagine you have an R number right now of 0.9 - you think you are doing well, numbers are falling, everybody is transmitting to fewer than one other person, you are on the right path, then you get this dominant strain and your R number overnight goes to 1.3 and you get exponential growth and you are in big trouble."

 

Interesting stuff Jason!

1) We now have a clear contradiction between the SG's numbers and the much higher numbers given out at a UK level to show just how scary the new mutation emergency really is. A increase from 0.9 to 1.3 does not make it '70% more infectious'. But as Leitch states that the difference is 0.4 "if you just let it run wild", then the true benchmark that he should be using for this comparison is the R rate for Covid-19 back in March. If we take that to be 3 for neatness' sake, then the difference between 3 and 3.4 is nowhere fucking near the 70% increase!!! from 24 hours ago.

2) A 0.4 increase in the R rate is enlightening. For those playing along at home, can you recall the single sector of activity that SAGE accounts for 0.4 of the existing R rate in the UK as well? Some clues:

- it involves packing hundreds of people inside a building five days a week

- this concentration of multi-family mixing takes place at sites all over the country

- the main infection mitigation strategy for it  involves crossing your fingers to hope that the gate outside acts as a force field to repel the virus

It seems that all we need to do then to overcome the scary mutation emergency emergency then is to punt all scholing where community transmission is taking place into distance learning, which is yeah, what we should have been doing already. Crisis averted!

 

TL/DR

 

I presume this is just the usual mewling?

[Marshmallo]

I've got him on Ignore - how has Old Man Danger resorted to his Christmas dream being ripped away from him? I saw he was trying to use "unemployed" as an insult so not sure how much lower he can get.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Marshmallo

[vikingTON]

20 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Interesting stuff Jason!

1) We now have a clear contradiction between the SG's numbers and the much higher numbers given out at a UK level to show just how scary the new mutation emergency really is. A increase from 0.9 to 1.3 does not make it '70% more infectious'. But as Leitch states that the difference is 0.4 "if you just let it run wild", then the true benchmark that he should be using for this comparison is the R rate for Covid-19 back in March. If we take that to be 3 for neatness' sake, then the difference between 3 and 3.4 is nowhere fucking near the 70% increase!!! from 24 hours ago.

2) A 0.4 increase in the R rate is enlightening. For those playing along at home, can you recall the single sector of activity that SAGE accounts for 0.4 of the existing R rate in the UK as well? Some clues:

- it involves packing hundreds of people inside a building five days a week

- this concentration of multi-family mixing takes place at sites all over the country

- the main infection mitigation strategy for it  involves crossing your fingers to hope that the gate outside acts as a force field to repel the virus

It seems that all we need to do then to overcome the scary mutation emergency emergency then is to punt all scholing where community transmission is taking place into distance learning, which is yeah, what we should have been doing already. Crisis averted!

 

TL/DR

 

I presume this is just the usual mewling?

^^^ too badly formatted disaster; didn't read

[Szamo's_Ammo]

22 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Interesting stuff Jason!

1) We now have a clear contradiction between the SG's numbers and the much higher numbers given out at a UK level to show just how scary the new mutation emergency really is. A increase from 0.9 to 1.3 does not make it '70% more infectious'. But as Leitch states that the difference is 0.4 "if you just let it run wild", then the true benchmark that he should be using for this comparison is the R rate for Covid-19 back in March. If we take that to be 3 for neatness' sake, then the difference between 3 and 3.4 is nowhere fucking near the 70% increase!!! from 24 hours ago.

2) A 0.4 increase in the R rate is enlightening. For those playing along at home, can you recall the single sector of activity that SAGE accounts for 0.4 of the existing R rate in the UK as well? Some clues:

- it involves packing hundreds of people inside a building five days a week

- this concentration of multi-family mixing takes place at sites all over the country

- the main infection mitigation strategy for it  involves crossing your fingers to hope that the gate outside acts as a force field to repel the virus

It seems that all we need to do then to overcome the scary mutation emergency emergency then is to punt all scholing where community transmission is taking place into distance learning, which is yeah, what we should have been doing already. Crisis averted!

 

TL/DR

 

I presume this is just the usual mewling?

The mess of a post above is a fitting metaphor for the government's pandemic response.

Janey Godley is cringing for you.

[Wee Bully]

The mess of a post above is a fitting metaphor for the government's pandemic response.
Janey Godley is cringing for you.

The cringe is all yours.

[Szamo's_Ammo]

21 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

I've got him on Ignore - how has Old Man Danger resorted to his Christmas dream being ripped away from him?

Very badly IMO. 

I also have that poster on Ignore but it is still disappointing to see such hideous comments displayed for all to see in quoted posts on the forum.

Whether posts like that are due to cognitive decline associated with aging or not, it is stlll a sad indictment of modern society.

It is what it is.

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Szamo's_Ammo

[Granny Danger]

21 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

I've got him on Ignore - how has Old Man Danger resorted to his Christmas dream being ripped away from him? I saw he was trying to use "unemployed" as an insult so not sure how much lower he can get.

 

1 minute ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

Very badly IMO. 

I also have that poster on Ignore but it is still sad to see such hideous comments displayed for all to see in quoted posts on the forum.

Whether posts like that are due to cognitive decline associated with aging or not, it is stlll a sad indictment of modern society.

It is what it is.

 

Imagine being on ignore but still being able to rile people up like that.

 

 

Without even trying.