bendan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: R is not a massively useful number to be honest, it is an easy one to report and conceptualise, but it doesn't really give a good "here and now" estimate of what's going on, its more a model for spread, not an actual measure of absolute numbers. I'd agree with that, but it's put front and centre when there's going to be a change in restrictions, and when the data is released, it turns out the number quoted was the estimate from 7 to 14 days earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, John MacLean said: Actually no we didn't. The virus didn't go away. We did. I used this analogy previously, when someone was trying to persuade us here that the virus wasn't as dangerous as it once was because death and infection rates were falling (a false premise if ever there was), it's like standing in the middle of the road and getting hit by a bus. If you stop standing in the middle of the road that doesn't suddenly make buses less dangerous. It just means you are better at avoiding them. For the benefit of clarity in this analogy the bus is Covid-19 and the middle of the road is basically anywhere in the outside world. The more we stayed in the lower the rates of transmission of the virus was. The more we went out, the more we ate out to help out and the more we interacted so the rate of this highly infectious virus rose again. I was being sarcastic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I've sent an email to the head of practice who's quite a big honcho in medical circles, so it will be interesting to find out if he has anything to say. I'm not that bothered but it would be nice to get my second jag out of the way before I probably cancel yet another holiday at the end of April. Im enjoying the booking and rebooking of holidays stuff, should be on a cruise in the Bahamas just now, but id much rather be home.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I've sent an email to the head of practice who's quite a big honcho in medical circles, so it will be interesting to find out if he has anything to say. I'm going for Iain Kennedy... Centres have protocols in place for if there's extra doses left over for whatever reason e.g. people not turning up, extra doses in bottles etc, so you might get lucky. The local centres phone round people to see if they can get down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John MacLean Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Elixir said: I was being sarcastic. Sorry, I'm in a ranty mood today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 GG&C announce they have completed the roll out to care home residents.Great stuff as they should now be able to motor through the remaining staff and over 80s. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, John MacLean said: Sorry, I'm in a ranty mood today. Every day is a ranty mood day during this shit show! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: GG&C announce they have completed the roll out to care home residents. Great stuff as they should now be able to motor through the remaining staff and over 80s. Good grief Harold we just want to get the poor old dears vaccinated 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: I'm going for Iain Kennedy... Centres have protocols in place for if there's extra doses left over for whatever reason e.g. people not turning up, extra doses in bottles etc, so you might get lucky. The local centres phone round people to see if they can get down. Got a reply which was a blunt GTF and wait your turn, don't think my email got past reception. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Adding a pic of Dr Steedman from today's briefing cos I think we all need a bit of cheering up. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Left Back said: Yes they could. if I remember correctly Boris locked the country down before furlough or the various business support schemes were in place. When he did that a raft of people were made redundant between him shutting pubs etc and Sunak announcing his economic support package. Some employers rescinded the redundancy and furloughed the staff instead. Happened to a member of my family. This isn't true, but even if it were the case - are you suggesting the Scottish Government could/should have locked down earlier and caused a raft of redundancies without a support system in place? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: Looks like Samantha Cameron Ach f**k sake mate I was on the vinegar strokes there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Cyclizine said: I'm going for Iain Kennedy... Centres have protocols in place for if there's extra doses left over for whatever reason e.g. people not turning up, extra doses in bottles etc, so you might get lucky. The local centres phone round people to see if they can get down. I think they should put yellow labels on the left over vaccine syringes at the end of the day. Then take them to the supermarket and leave them with the marked down Melton Mowbray Pork Pies, Yellow Haddock and out of date yoghurts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Im enjoying the booking and rebooking of holidays stuff, should be on a cruise in the Bahamas just now, but id much rather be home.... I'm meant to be going to Russia the morra. All flights are cancelled from Leper Island so contacted the embassy about changing my visa to later in year Nyet, can I get a refund Nyet. Commie bassas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: 14 days into 2021 and I’m already scunnered with it. No? I didn't see that coming! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Moonster said: This isn't true, but even if it were the case - are you suggesting the Scottish Government could/should have locked down earlier and caused a raft of redundancies without a support system in place? Not advocating anything. Just pointing out that there was advice or restrictions in place before the financial support packages were and this impacted peoples jobs. if you were entirely focussed on public health it would the the correct logical policy to implement restrictions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Anyone know if there is a website where you can find the historical 7 day rate per 100k for each council area, going back to the summer? Edited January 14, 2021 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Now stopped flights from Brazil and most surrounding countries. After several landed today. So presumably enough cases of the Brazil variant now circulating to continue their quest for herd immunity, so its safe to stop them now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Left Back said: Not advocating anything. Just pointing out that there was advice or restrictions in place before the financial support packages were and this impacted peoples jobs. if you were entirely focussed on public health it would the the correct logical policy to implement restrictions. So when you said the government could've locked down earlier, you realised how much of a stupid move that would've been, but you still want to argue that it was possible? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Now stopped flights from Brazil and most surrounding countries. After several landed today. So presumably enough cases of the Brazil variant now circulating to continue their quest for herd immunity, so its safe to stop them now. Herd immunity is going to happen sooner or later regardless of what 'look, we're taking action!' measures they want to throw around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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