Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[welshbairn]

Just now, Markka said:

If we have the supply and the people available to administer, then hopefully we can reach that number.

I'm sure some government lackey stated a while back there wasn't a demand for 24/7 vaccinations. Based on my survey sample of about a dozen, the opposite is true.

Hopefully nearly all the elderly and vulnerable will have had their firsts jags by then, so they should be able to dual track 24/7 conveyer belt stuff for the mobile under 60s alongside conventional GP stuff for the over 60s second jag. If the supply ramps up sufficiently with more vaccines potentially getting approval.

[Elixir]

10 minutes ago, madwullie said:

Just checked out that Ding imposter's Wikipedia entry. Seems extremely qualified to me? He seems to have a fair bit of epidemiology experience studied to a pretty high level, and that's without even looking at his work history. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Feigl-Ding

 

BTW Manaus had estimated 75% of people having had it and they're being/ have been brutalised with a second wave. 

 

This is also a very good article: https://undark.org/2020/11/25/complicated-rise-of-eric-feigl-ding/

[invergowrie arab]

23 minutes ago, superbigal said:

Todays summary

Mr Swinney says the latest estimate for the R number in Scotland is around one and has probably fallen in the last week.

The deputy first minister says the current lockdown restrictions are helping to stabilise the R number.

Thank you John for the 1st nearer to the truth statement on R in the last week.  My feeble calculations say it is likely between 0.8-0.9.

Now accessed the other home nations for the cases per 100K latest.   These are a little behind the Scottish cases.  England 497.3,   Wales 304.3, Northern Ireland 384.3

Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan    So our peak is still lower than where the other nations currently stand.

From 11th to 17th January we were down to  207.3

Todays figure for 12th Jan to 18th Jan is 200.4   Another decent single Day drop of 3.33%. Infections have dropped every day since the  aforementioned peak.  Total drop is now 33.62%   Also now not a single Council in one of the Level 4 Indicators of over 300 cases per 100K as Glasgow & North Lanarkshire drop below the magic number.   Other big cities Aberdeen & Dundee close to dropping below 200.  Edinburgh on a different planet and going back in time would be screaming for Level 2.

Are you sure?

I can't be arsed going back and looking but my recollection was that very roughly it seemed to be applied Tier 2 under 100, Tier 3 100-200 and Tier 4 at above 200. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

5 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Hopefully nearly all the elderly and vulnerable will have had their firsts jags by then, so they should be able to dual track 24/7 conveyer belt stuff for the mobile under 60s alongside conventional GP stuff for the over 60s second jag. If the supply ramps up sufficiently with more vaccines potentially getting approval.

Getting the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine approved for roll out in April will get this thing beat, im absolutely convinced of it. 

[Markka]

Hopefully nearly all the elderly and vulnerable will have had their firsts jags by then, so they should be able to dual track 24/7 conveyer belt stuff for the mobile under 60s alongside conventional GP stuff for the over 60s second jag. If the supply ramps up sufficiently with more vaccines potentially getting approval.

Fingers crossed.

[No_Problemo]

5 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Are you sure?

I can't be arsed going back and looking but my recollection was that very roughly it seemed to be applied Tier 2 under 100, Tier 3 100-200 and Tier 4 at above 200. 

It wasn’t ever applied based on what they said it would be, from what I remember!

[Theroadlesstravelled]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55704312

Lockdown in NI until Easter.

[Spider Rico]

1 hour ago, HibsFan said:

Guess who's back with another zero COVID article?

Of course, she refuses to set out what the plan for zero COVID actually entails:

 

She never does.

All we get a are a few gems like “Governments should use the summer months to implement policies that really go after the virus”.

Fantastic insight there Devi. Several levels of quality  below the bullet points I used to scrape the minimum pass mark in my first year uni exams.

[Arch Stanton]

2 hours ago, Spider Rico said:

Leitch today

“ Getting out of this will be slow and it will be gradual. Schools and the wellbeing of children will be the priority and so will places of worship”

 

What a load of shite that is. God botherers believe that he is omnipresent and therefore able to be worshipped from anywhere.

[Thereisalight..]

5 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55704312

Lockdown in NI until Easter.

BJ basically saying the same earlier. Over a year of our lives sitting in the house never thought I'd be desperate for something as simple as a day out in Glasgow

[Jacksgranda]

44 minutes ago, Elixir said:

South Korea is a de facto island with a much more obedient population than in the west. They have also had a far more restrictive society than many people realise. Whenever they have 'opened up', they have soon seen spikes in cases which then result in restrictions on most of the things that make life interesting. They have doubtless done far better, but they are also going to have to hope the vaccines work as well as intended, or like Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and Australia, they will face some very difficult choices longer-term.

Must be a bit like New York.

[latapythelegend]

1 minute ago, Thereisalight.. said:

BJ basically saying the same earlier. Over a year of our lives sitting in the house never thought I'd be desperate for something as simple as a day out in Glasgow

Need to remember though there are thousands who never thought they would be so desperate for something as simple as a deep of breath of air.

[Thereisalight..]

1 minute ago, latapythelegend said:

Need to remember though there are thousands who never thought they would be so desperate for something as simple as a deep of breath of air.

Birthday card pish 

[lithgierose]

22 hours ago, Tynierose said:

I've got my second one at start of March, hoping for a superpower after it.  Preferably invisibility.

1if you last that long

[Todd_is_God]

2 minutes ago, latapythelegend said:

Need to remember though there are thousands who never thought they would be so desperate for something as simple as a deep of breath of air.

 

[Donathan]

sorry to be mister doom but be careful what you wish for,  the post covid business world could be the most cut throat ever seen, if a job can be done from another country then it can be done by someone from another country,  there are over a 100 million people in Asia, Africa and the Caribbean who speak English as either their first language or are 100% fluent in it and they are well educated .  cash strapped companies may end up decided to outsource many or all of there operation that do not require a physical presence at the worksite in the uk or wherever else. I can't for the life of me think why big bad companys will suddenly just let their first world staff swan about like gap year students when they could have 5 Indians working 12 hour days for the same price.  maybe some will who knows, I think yes are dreamin!

People who make comments like this have clearly never managed a team in India before.

[budmiester1]

What I’d like hear from the Government is how they intend to implement the “Roadmap “ out of this situation. I don’t mean on such and such date we drop a level but once we reach a certain level of inoculations, infections and most importantly number of cases in hospitals then we can move down. If the government is honest about all these figures people can see that things are improving and getting closer to a more normal life, give the people a big carrot and they’ll follow.

Edited January 21, 2021 by budmiester1

[effeffsee_the2nd]

People who make comments like this have clearly never managed a team in India before.

Are you bobby williamson?

The HR department where i work have been WFH since march. They work only on computers, they do only what they’re rules a guideline templates say they can do. They work from a script if you call them to resolve an issue. If you need them to deviate from protocol it takes senior management to get involved.
Other than racist people demanding to “ speak to someone in England please” what’s the difference?

[Detournement]

59 minutes ago, superbigal said:

This is apparently the truth behind Pfizer delays.  Not very nice of them if 100% true.

Pfizer scaled back vaccine supply after learning about ‘bonus doses’

 

 

 

 

 

Pharmaceutical company Pfizer reduced the number of deliveries after hearing that a sixth “bonus dose” could be extracted from a vial, according to Belgium’s federal vaccine task force.

Last weekend, Pfizer announced that it wanted to scale up and would therefore temporarily be able to supply fewer vaccines, but that was not the only reason for the sudden delay of the vaccinations among hospital staff, of which the government was informed on Tuesday afternoon.

The reduction in supply is linked to the fact that six doses can now be taken from a Pfizer vial instead of five, according to Sabine Stordeur (UCL) of the federal vaccination task force.

She told Le Soir that the contract between Pfizer and Belgium is calculated on the number of doses, and not on the number of vials.

This means that now that the company is aware of the fact that Belgium – and other countries as well – could almost consistently get six doses, it scaled back deliveries.

“Coming from 92 plateaus with 195 vials, we are now down to 76 plateaus,” Stordeur said. “We knew that there was a chance that they would adjust that. And they did. It is still a commercial company. It was a mistake to think we could win a dose this way.”

“We were counting the vials, but Pfizer counted the doses according to the contract,” Caroline Leys, spokesperson for the task force, confirmed to De Standaard.

Belgian virologist Marc Van Ranst also reacted to the news on Twitter, asking if he could think that the reduced delivery was “not very decent” of the company.

In the meantime, the federal medicines agency FAMHP has also indicated that Pfizer has officially changed the information on the package to say that six rather than five doses can be taken from a vial.

“That applies to the whole of Europe, those reports have been adapted,” said spokesperson Ann Eeckhout. “This is nothing new for us, but it does have an impact on the communication of the figures. That is precisely why we communicate in the number of doses supplied and not in vials. At least we were able to take advantage of the six doses instead of five for a short time.”

This is when you need a Jack Ma style wee holiday for some corporate execs to give them time to "think and study".

[madwullie]

1 hour ago, Elixir said:

This is also a very good article: https://undark.org/2020/11/25/complicated-rise-of-eric-feigl-ding/

Yeah I'm not saying he's not been hysterical. He has. But this snobbery towards people genuinely well qualified on their fields has really got my goat during this whole pandemic. 

And basically what people do is rely on some expert's opinion of some other expert I'm sure I could find an article or two slagging off the guy above, but for whatever reason you've chosen to accept what he says as gospel. Fair enough, but it's a bit far for you to call someone qualified in epidemiology who studied at, and was employed by Harvard and at 37 sits on some pretty prestigious boards, a fraud imo. Presumably you agree with him that people are too scared of covid. 

Edited January 21, 2021 by madwullie