madwullie Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Steven W said: At least Hancock is offering a timetable of sorts with an end date, and something you can process in your brain, rather Sturgeon's horrible use of open ended language. Hancock and all his colleagues have given different dates, open dates, no dates, exact dates depending on which way the wind is blowing, and whether they're leaking or briefing in person I'm not sure how you can see that obfuscation and manipulation as better than refusing to commit. Edit: what @Paco said Edited February 13, 2021 by madwullie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hancock on the BBC saying he hopes Covid becomes something we can live with, have I fallen through the looking glass or can anyone else see we have a number of vaccines that are 90% effective against hospitalisations and death, literally hundreds of treatments that ease or cure disease if the patient is hospitalised, has no one told him any of this? I get we have to wait for the hospitals to actually clear a fair chunk of their current load but he is harping on like we are in Feb 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Yeah. Exactly what Paco said.The language used by the scot gov and a greater extent most scientists is open ended and more cautious because the situation merits it.Hancock making his latest hot take hold prediction now makes me even less convinced we're getting anywhere this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Wasn’t there a poster on here who claimed we should all live close to our place of work? That would negate the need for commuting. Everyone should live locally 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, madwullie said: Hancock and all his colleagues have given different dates, open dates, no dates, exact dates depending on which way the wind is blowing, and whether they're leaking or briefing in person I'm not sure how you can see that obfuscation and manipulation as better than refusing to commit. Edit: what @Paco said Ok fair enough. You can go with the 'maybe' 'one day' 'soon' type language then. Personally, 11 months in, I'm looking for something a bit more definitive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said: Why do you keep insisting that acceptance of restrictions is 'unquestioning'? What makes you think people haven't just thought about it and come to a different conclusion to you? Because they've came to a different conclusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steven W said: Ok fair enough. You can go with the 'maybe' 'one day' 'soon' type language then. Personally, 11 months in, I'm looking for something a bit more definitive. Even if it's lies? Fair enough, but that makes no sense to me. At least he tells us what we want to hear, even if it's bollocks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 hours ago, SlipperyP said: Question for you. As I live in Thailand and the vaccine is not going live, until later this month and will take all year and next year for them to get to the magic 70% herd. The Thai government saying it is only available to Thai nationals, even though I am registered with the local NHS (card carrier). My question is. I left Scotland in 2008, while registered at my local GP, I have never offically declared I left the UK, if you can even do that. Would I still be registered at that said GP? Therefore on the list for vaccination? 0 I'm still waiting to hear but suspect I'll be OK but may need to pay a little here. Worth bearing in mind that if you've been out of the UK for more than 3 months continuously you're technically not covered by the NHS so wouldn't get the vaccine. That said, I've heard of many who pop back to the UK for medical treatment with no problems. I suppose it comes down to how honest you want to be and how dig they deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, MP_MFC said: Yeah. Exactly what Paco said. The language used by the scot gov and a greater extent most scientists is open ended and more cautious because the situation merits it. Hancock making his latest hot take hold prediction now makes me even less convinced we're getting anywhere this year. Hancock as much as he has all the candour of a used car salesman, has not been so definitive until now I believe. All bluster and date setting has been from Johnson until now whereas Hancock has done what Hancock does and slithered around questions such as possible timescales without ever answering, be that to retain lack of accountability or just general cautiousness. So it's a bit of a surprise to see him of all people edging towards a definitive timescale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 People complaining its too cold outside as they to que outside to get into the supermarket. Not seeing an issue here yet the verbal abuse hasn't been great . Valentines weekend going great in a middle of a pandemic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Steven W said: Ok fair enough. You can go with the 'maybe' 'one day' 'soon' type language then. Personally, 11 months in, I'm looking for something a bit more definitive. We're not 11 months in, we're only 11 months in with the original strains, it's actually quite amazing that we've developed vaccines in such a short time. I don't like being told something might happen in 3 weeks when I can see that it'll be a lot longer but you just need to read this thread to see what would happen if they gave us more certainty with a longer timescale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, madwullie said: Even if it's lies? Fair enough, but that makes no sense to me. At least he tells us what we want to hear, even if it's bollocks. Is it lies though? With vaccines on the go and new treatments coming to fruition; a prediction that living with Covid will be like living with flu in ten months time is hardly the most outlandish thing ever said and surely something even they can deliver upon? As I said earlier the notion of some kind of end date, even if it's ten months away gives me personally some comfort, that I don't get from NS' open ended use of language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hancock as much as he has all the candour of a used car salesman, has not been so definitive until now I believe. All bluster and date setting has been from Johnson until now whereas Hancock has done what Hancock does and slithered around questions such as possible timescales without ever answering, be that to retain lack of accountability or just general cautiousness. So it's a bit of a surprise to see him of all people edging towards a definitive timescale. The Tories in particular are probably sensing an incoming tide of pressure from their own backbenchers. They will be desperately trying to head that off I'd think 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, ayrmad said: We're not 11 months in, we're only 11 months in with the original strains, it's actually quite amazing that we've developed vaccines in such a short time. I don't like being told something might happen in 3 weeks when I can see that it'll be a lot longer but you just need to read this thread to see what would happen if they gave us more certainty with a longer timescale. We're definitely 11 months in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said: People complaining its too cold outside as they to que outside to get into the supermarket. Not seeing an issue here yet the verbal abuse hasn't been great . Valentines weekend going great in a middle of a pandemic “Let me in fur ma fucking Ferrero Rocher” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steven W said: We're definitely 11 months in. If you can't see that these new strains have changed things then I can't help you. -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Snafu said: You have queues waiting to get into a supermarket? Correct. This is nothing new Edited February 13, 2021 by Robin.Hood 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 If you can't see that these new strains have changed things then I can't help you. There's not a soul looking for your brand of help m8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 6 minutes ago, ayrmad said: If you can't see that these new strains have changed things then I can't help you. There's not a soul looking for your brand of help m9. Ftfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Encouraged by Hancock's comments this morning. Hopefully we'll hear similar optimistic and pragmatic words from the Scottish Government on the matter... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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