Glen Sannox Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Detournement said: She said the best case scenario for this summer is last summer which is absolute shite and a strong sign that we will have another winter lockdown. If that’s the case then we need to ditch this, go back to normal, then face whatever consequences come our way. This is not living! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Aufc said: Whilst delighted i am able to pack my sprogs away from next week, i agree that there is no reasons for gyms not to be open if we are opening schools. It's because we're still at a stage where where some restrictions are necessary, and because schools are very much more important to society than gyms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It's because we're still at a stage where where some restrictions are necessary, and because schools are very much more important to society than gyms. Some restrictions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: It would be interesting to see if legal precedence begins to emerge re "emergency powers". Didn't some Scottish publicans try a legal challenge last year ? Yes, I don't actually recall what happened with that but presumably it was thrown out. Cutting through all the nonsense, its surely as simple a choice as get people vaccinated and go back to normal while accepting there will still be infections and their will still be deaths but that the NHS will cope, or alternatively live like prisoners for the rest of our life's worrying about "new variants", etc and watch as economies are ruined, standards of living drop hugely and quality of life is close to zero. Do we want to survive or do we want to live ?? Personally I'm willing to take my chance with Covid rather than live a life like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Left Back said: Some restrictions? Ok, quite a lot, meaning that things need prioritised. Naturally, gyms come way behind schools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Anyone any idea why Labour voted against this, seems like one of the good things to come out of this will be properly run care homes and they vote against it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Ok, quite a lot, meaning that things need prioritised. Naturally, gyms come way behind schools. That is a point of view. If you look at it from a pure epidemiological standpoint where school opening will drive up the R rate more than gym reopening you could argue that opening schools is the last thing society needs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RH33 said: Why take such a gamble when that industry had been hit hard earlier in year? Were you betting on government self employed support being higher than her furlough wage from employer? Not at all. Government support or furlough money had never even came into the rationale. Like many, we had taken that there would be ongoing restrictions perhaps even a second full lockdown but certainly not to the level or length of time currently being seen. She had been furloughed back in March and her boss from early doors was making all sorts of noises about closing up and potentially not being able to afford staying open. In fact she didn't even receive a wage of any sort from her former employer until the end of May when furlough money finally arrived. My partner has been there for 30 years since the day she left school and came to a stark realisation that her job was in such a precarious situation that her boss could close up and leave her with nothing with only a few weeks notice and she became absolutely despondent at the thought of going back...also the environment that the shop had become was really dragging her down for a long time before covid. So at the point in the summer where this looked to be all over (at least from a lockdown perspective, if not restrictions), she had a bit of lightbulb moment and questioned to me whether she could do on her own two feet, working from a separate facility at our home and I agreed. Bear in mind that the wheels were set in motion for this in June but due to timber shortages, restrictions etc, it did not get completed until the start of September. Even then, was not a risky move as cases were still low enough to stay under thresholds for the first 13 or 14 weeks of operation. It still isn't a risky move, her business was going quite well in the time she was open and her customers will still be there by the time it reopens but in the weeks and months she is forced to close, she should absolutely be supported. Edited February 16, 2021 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 101 said: Anyone any idea why Labour voted against this, seems like one of the good things to come out of this will be properly run care homes and they vote against it. Probably some SNP amendment to preclude them from voting for it, they all love playing that game. Edited February 16, 2021 by ayrmad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) The problem I've got is late Autumn/early Winter in London they were going to fitba and pubs and filling out Oxford Street Chrimbo shopping, luckily in Inverclyde we could go out and socialise for a bit, then we hear of this Kent variant causing problems and it was coming up North meaning many parts of Scotland not even get a chance to come out of hard lockdown. So the Scottish governments cautious approach resulted in us getting it doubly tight. Instead all 4 nations shutting everything but absolute essentials for the whole of January and tell everyone wanting to fly in to GTF we have this ongoing semi lockdown, with everyone going to work mingling on transport etc..and a forever glum outlook. Edited February 16, 2021 by dirty dingus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It's because we're still at a stage where where some restrictions are necessary, and because schools are very much more important to society than gyms. If schools have 10x the impact of gyms on the reproduction rate then that does not matter though. The proper way out is to first identify what can be opened up while comfortably keeping forward momentum going, then you can quite rightly prioritise between like for like choices. That the government can't even commit to its beloved full-occupancy schools policy tells you that it is not confident that it can achieve this balancing act. On the other hand, the government could restore non-essential retail, gyms and services to their December 2020 restrictions tomorrow and cases would almost certainly continue to fall. Edited February 16, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Left Back said: That is a point of view. If you look at it from a pure epidemiological standpoint where school opening will drive up the R rate more than gym reopening you could argue that opening schools is the last thing society needs. If this was about viewing things from a "pure epidemiological standpoint", we can be sure that the response on here today would be very different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So, could we find ourselves in a situation in June where there could be 30,000 in Wembley and none in Hampden? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak · 18m Head of the UK's vaccine taskforce Clive Dix has told Sky News every adult in the UK could receive both doses of a coronavirus vaccine by August or September "or maybe sooner if we need to" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Came back with the start of lockdown. Those living or working in a level 4 area should avoid all unnecessary contact and not go to work for as long as "lockdown" is in place. Missed that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak · 18m Head of the UK's vaccine taskforce Clive Dix has told Sky News every adult in the UK could receive both doses of a coronavirus vaccine by August or September "or maybe sooner if we need to" That seems like good news but I'm starting to get to the point where I'm thinking "what fucking difference does it make?" 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, WATTOO said: The events in Holland will be interesting following today's court ruling, this could just be the start of the collapse of Government authority throughout. Not even close. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: An Independent Scotland wouldn’t have to worry about when someone else was going to end the furlough. It was a salient question though as Scotland isn’t an Independent country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak · 18m Head of the UK's vaccine taskforce Clive Dix has told Sky News every adult in the UK could receive both doses of a coronavirus vaccine by August or September "or maybe sooner if we need to" Lolwut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak · 18m Head of the UK's vaccine taskforce Clive Dix has told Sky News every adult in the UK could receive both doses of a coronavirus vaccine by August or September "or maybe sooner if we need to" Great news that could well see Orkney and Shetland finally get reduced to Tier 3 in time for Christmas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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