Monkey Tennis Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Empty It said: 42 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Well obviously. Who's saying they're not entitled to a voice? Every single person moaning about people complaining because "that's what we expected" That's just daft isn't it? People can disagree with you, without requiring you to be muzzled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Clearly this is the principle on which Nicola Sturgeon bases major political decisions; the urge to piss off a large part of the P&B demographic. Certainly, some on here seem to be taking things personally. Or maybe she is simply a pragmatic and cautious politician who is striving for the best outcome for her people. I am strongly in favour of Scottish independence and would see her as the most likely achiever of that aim. Sturgeon comes over as both competent and empathetic in her response to Covid, moreso than any other major UK political figure. So I am surprised and disappointed that SNP voters are flagging up intentions to abstain or vote otherwise in the May election. I live in England and obviously have no say in the Scottish parliamentary election, but I would dearly love to be able to vote for a candidate of Sturgeon's calibre. I doubt many on here envy my own options of Johnson, Starmer or Davey. Edited February 16, 2021 by Thane of Cawdor jpeg rather than image 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Mass testing doesn't work either as the turnaround is too slow. Well, it does as evidenced in places like Korea. Slow turnaround only happens when it’s done badly. Can easily be done inside 20 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Well, it does as evidenced in places like Korea. Slow turnaround only happens when it’s done badly. Can easily be done inside 20 minutes. The UK Gov can't tell the UK public that LFT is rubbish then use it as the tool to end the problem. They trialled it in Liverpool, remember, and rubbished the results. Edited February 16, 2021 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: Clearly this is the principle on which Nicola Sturgeon bases major political decisions; the urge to piss off a large part of the P&B demographic. Certainly, some on here seem to be taking things personally. Or maybe she is simply a pragmatic and cautious politician who is striving for the best outcome for her people. I am strongly in favour of Scottish independence and would see her as the most likely achiever of that aim. Sturgeon comes over as both competent and empathetic in her response to Covid, moreso than any other major UK political figure. So I am surprised and disappointed that SNP voters are flagging up intentions to abstain or vote otherwise in the May election. I live in England and obviously have no say in the Scottish parliamentary election, but I would dearly love to be able to vote for a candidate of Sturgeon's calibre. I doubt many on here envy my own options of Johnson, Starmer or Davey. Don’t worry, this thread has become an echo chamber for a small bunch of greeting faced wankers. Their views are not a reflection of the wider electorate. It will be fun watching their reactions after the May election. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: I live in England I'm sure you mean well, but it's easy to compliment a politician when you aren't going to be impacted again by her ultra cautious approach later in the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Nice, so any further recommendations she makes can be filed firmly under 'bin' by her own admission given that she has no power and she's 'just a scientist'. Fantastic example of washing your hands of any responsibility when someone confronts the fact that your words carry weight when whispered in the right ears. Not sure it is fair to blame non health outcomes on public health officials, the same way wouldn't attribute adverse health outcomes to economic advisers. The politicians have to balance health and the economy, that they are probably ill equipped to make such decisions isn't the fault of public health experts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Don’t worry, this thread has become an echo chamber for a small bunch of greeting faced wankers. Their views are not a reflection of the wider electorate. It will be fun watching their reactions after the May election. I'm pretty sure there is not a single poster in this thread who expects anything other than a thumping SNP victory in May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vikingTON Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) The idea that we should be forever grateful for the good fortune of having elected a leader who is more empathetic and competent than Boris fucking Johnson (or that Welsh Labour goon) at handling a crisis is risible. It's also worth noting that this empathy only ever applies to politically favoured groups and having a good greet about images of people at Portobello beach; rather than for the people losing their jobs and businesses going tits up because of the SG's rolling lockdowns and generally moronic, token efforts to look stricter than England. At best we're dealing with a 4/10 level of performance. Edited February 16, 2021 by vikingTON 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Not sure it is fair to blame non health outcomes on public health officials, the same way wouldn't attribute adverse health outcomes to economic advisers. The politicians have to balance health and the economy, that they are probably ill equipped to make such decisions isn't the fault of public health experts. It's not fair to blame an advisor who's advice heavily influences policy? DS can't be advising the SG in private, tweeting her advice, and appearing on tv interviews also re-iterating her advice, then putting her hands up and say "don't blame me, blame the policy" when someone disagrees with her rather utopian outloook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: I'm pretty sure there is not a single poster in this thread who expects anything other than a thumping SNP victory in May. And I’m pretty sure there will be some who will be pissed off when that happens. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So looks like my holiday in May is a no go then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So looks like my holiday in May is a no go then.Definitely......May 2022 might be ok though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, Deanburn Dave said: 7 minutes ago, keithgy said: So looks like my holiday in May is a no go then. Definitely......May 2022 might be ok though. I have actually booked exactly the same holiday for May 2022 just in case,mind you we are flying from Manchester so not sure of the in's and out's of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, keithgy said: I have actually booked exactly the same holiday for May 2022 just in case,mind you we are flying from Manchester so not sure of the in's and out's of it. Just need to watch out incase the Milngavie variant raises its head, best to just cancel everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, keithgy said: I have actually booked exactly the same holiday for May 2022 just in case,mind you we are flying from Manchester so not sure of the in's and out's of it. It's departures on the way out and arrivals when you travel back. HTH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Not sure it is fair to blame non health outcomes on public health officials, the same way wouldn't attribute adverse health outcomes to economic advisers. The politicians have to balance health and the economy, that they are probably ill equipped to make such decisions isn't the fault of public health experts. It's absolutely fair as the public health recommendations are at the direct expense of all other non health outcomes currently and be damned the consequences. The advisors are driving policy with their recommendations and so should absolutely be held partly accountable. Edited February 16, 2021 by djchapsticks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, keithgy said: I have actually booked exactly the same holiday for May 2022 just in case,mind you we are flying from Manchester so not sure of the in's and out's of it. The loophole of flying in to English airports will be closed by then so you’ll be in managed quarantine is the likely ins and outs of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I’ve actually just seen someone on Twitter whine that it’s not fair he can only get 2 of his 4 kids back to school. I can imagine VT's response to that.[emoji1787] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Bairnardo said: 6 hours ago, Empty It said: It really is going to get to a point when people will just say f**k it. I'm there. Said they had until the end of the month but f**k this. Will be going to see some mates this week since I'm off work. Will try to organise a few beers with them whilst I am at it. If this is the way they are treating us then they can expect the same contempt back from myself. It's entirely understandable to be concerned about the tone of the announcement today and failure to acknowledge that, even if done cautiously, increasing vaccinations should lead to decreasing restrictions over the coming months. While awaiting the route map appearing next week to get some proper detail on what the plan now is, it's entirely valid to be pissed off at any suggestion that we might end up with further lockdowns even when the vast majority of the population have been vaccinated. However, if your response to that concern is to say that you're just going to sack off the restrictions immediately because you think there’s no need for them and start having house parties, that's not remotely a reasonable reaction arising from annoyance about a lack of clarity or optimism for the months ahead as vaccination progresses. That's effectively saying you think restrictions should all be going in the bin right now, and that would obviously be an insanely stupid position. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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