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2 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said:

Nick Davis Book - Flat earth News - explains a lot of why news is in the sate it is nowadays

That’s an old book now... a lot has changed since it was published.

The big change is that vast quantities of why you read now - especially online - is written by very inexperienced reporters almost straight out of uni with very little real supervision or editing process. The number of experienced people still working in newspapers has been decimated with overall head counts down and experienced staff understandably leaving to take far better pay and conditions working in PR and corporate comms and the like - or just leaving the profession altogether (as I did!).

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1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said:

Clearly hit the spot...big team found perhaps.

Some day when speaking out against antagonistic shite from extremist OF supporters groups gets you branded using some yank patter a 6yo might use but that's where we are at it seems.
 

I think he’s totally lost the plot.  It’s like watching the last 6 weeks of Falkirk’s season as he unravels before us.  

A dribbling simpleton who will be going on ignore soon 

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It's outdoors where transmission is basically non-existent, there is zero pressure on the NHS due to covid, football fans have been locked out all season and it's their first title in a decade, most of which they spent as a laughing stock. I struggle to get too excited about folk having their day outside. I'll avoid the city centre on Saturday.

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18 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Yes, this is something I've noticed myself recently so basically there's no investigative journalism but just punters doing copy and paste jobs and selling it as "news".

I fell victim to this relatively recently.  Many papers evidently rely heavily on the 'press reader', resulting in a series of inaccuracies which are the product of a journalistic game of Chinese whispers.

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3 minutes ago, Left Back said:

CL final officially moved to Portugal so that fans can attend.

This really should've been played in England tbh. It isn't because no agreement on broadcasters and sponsors attending from amber/red listed countries could be made as the Government wouldn't budge. 

I don't know how as people on Twitter assure us thousands of people are pouring through UK airports everyday unchecked and are bringing the virus in. 

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3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:
6 minutes ago, Left Back said:
CL final officially moved to Portugal so that fans can attend.

Have Portugal finally lifted their ban on UK entrance and announced their entry rules as they hadn't up to now. Might be special dispensation for this game maybe ?

Nothing I've seen but I'd assume the Portuguese authorities were consulted in all this and agreed to let fans in from the UK.  They'll have had to let delegates/sponsors broadcasters in from all over the world (i.e. higher risk countries) so allowing a few thousand from the UK should be low risk.

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It's outdoors where transmission is basically non-existent, there is zero pressure on the NHS due to covid, football fans have been locked out all season and it's their first title in a decade, most of which they spent as a laughing stock. I struggle to get too excited about folk having their day outside. I'll avoid the city centre on Saturday.
My take had nothing to do with public health. There is simply no need to march through the city to the main city square on a Saturday even more so when they have already celebrated in that fashion. What's wrong with celebrating in Ibrox ?
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Just now, Billy Jean King said:
4 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
It's outdoors where transmission is basically non-existent, there is zero pressure on the NHS due to covid, football fans have been locked out all season and it's their first title in a decade, most of which they spent as a laughing stock. I struggle to get too excited about folk having their day outside. I'll avoid the city centre on Saturday.

My take had nothing to do with public health. There is simply no need to march through the city to the main city square on a Saturday even more so when they have already celebrated in that fashion. What's wrong with celebrating in Ibrox ?

I don't know, I'm not head of "The Union Bears" so I wasn't involved in organising it.

The whole point is they want people to be annoyed at it. We're best off ignoring it and leaving them to it.

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Nothing I've seen but I'd assume the Portuguese authorities were consulted in all this and agreed to let fans in from the UK.  They'll have had to let delegates/sponsors broadcasters in from all over the world (i.e. higher risk countries) so allowing a few thousand from the UK should be low risk.
Need to get a move on, must be going to announce something as they can't enter as it stands.
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That’s an old book now... a lot has changed since it was published.
The big change is that vast quantities of why you read now - especially online - is written by very inexperienced reporters almost straight out of uni with very little real supervision or editing process. The number of experienced people still working in newspapers has been decimated with overall head counts down and experienced staff understandably leaving to take far better pay and conditions working in PR and corporate comms and the like - or just leaving the profession altogether (as I did!).

So it’s even worse now than in the book?
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13 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

 

I'm not into conspiracies but this seems reasonable.

We already know that most of this is being driven by behavioural advisors rather than any actual science and has been since last year when Cummings (I think) talked about it.

Yeah I don't think there's any conspiracy here.

They have/had a situation where they had laws/regulations that couldn't be enforced, other than closing down businesses. It's therefore reasonable to assume they've used every media tool they can think of to maximise compliance.

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Yeah I don't think there's any conspiracy here.
They have/had a situation where they had laws/regulations that couldn't be enforced, other than closing down businesses. It's therefore reasonable to assume they've used every media tool they can think of to maximise compliance.


Pretty much. I think thats why some countries chose to ban outdoor exercise outright and only allowed people out for very specific reasons ( ones which could actually be challenged by police and confirmed)
Not because going out for a walk spread covid but because the more exemptions you allow , the more the pish gets taken
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270 new cases of COVID-19 reported
25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
1.2% of these were positive
1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6)
63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65)
2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose

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270 new cases of COVID-19 reported
25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
1.2% of these were positive
1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6)
63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65)
2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose



4 folk in intensive care. This is basically over now.
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10 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

270 new cases of COVID-19 reported
25,093 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
1.2% of these were positive
1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
4 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 6)
63 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 (down from 65)
2,968,169 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 1,551,339 have received their second dose

Right kick in the teeth for Leitch with those figures. 
 

 

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