Elixir Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Interesting paper of out Iceland claiming that vaccinating in ascending age or randomly would have prevented more infections than vaccinating in order of descending age. Largely because it's the asymptomatic young-uns who do most of the spreading. I mentioned this yesterday as to why it might explain no spikes in cases on the continent or the US, as they have been vaccinating younger people quicker than we have. You got a link? 34 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I'd be stunned if they relaxed foreign travel measures before the latest "freedom day" so I don't think Calder (who is usually a bullish optimist) is too wide of the mark with his take. Remember it's his paper carrying the travel "scoops" Well, yes. The plan is likely to open up on the 19th or the week after to Europe and the US. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Interesting paper of out Iceland claiming that vaccinating in ascending age or randomly would have prevented more infections than vaccinating in order of descending age. Largely because it's the asymptomatic young-uns who do most of the spreading. The JCVI advice was about saving lives rather than reducing transmission. Now that nearly all the over 50's are done they should be switching tack. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Paul Charles has been wrong on just about every prediction he made in the last two months. He predicted transatlantic announcement on 8th june and at g7. Il read articles he highlights from other sources etc but he himself has been so off the mark. I agree - but just shows that they are guessing. Realistically I think the fact the ego and reputation of the Government is now at stake is what is inevitably going to force them to acquiesce fairly quickly to bring us into line with the EU and US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Interesting paper of out Iceland claiming that vaccinating in ascending age or randomly would have prevented more infections than vaccinating in order of descending age. Largely because it's the asymptomatic young-uns who do most of the spreading. We began vaccinating at the peak of the wave though which surely makes a difference. Did they factor in the UK's position in January '21 or is it just a general model? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) The EU threw a lot of orders at this failed punt. Shame this bit CureVac's U.S. traded shares fell 50.6% to $46.81 in after-hours trading following publication of the data. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/curevacs-covid-19-vaccine-misses-efficacy-goal-mass-trial-2021-06-16/ Edited June 17, 2021 by superbigal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, PWL said: Having followed this thread from the early days, discovering Slippery is younger than me is one of the first times I've had a double take at a post. No worries, I'm a young man living my fathers shoes. I travel where he never went I speak on his be half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Jesus f**k. This could actively prevent folk getting vaccinated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1,317 new cases of COVID-19 reported30,990 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results4.6% of these were positive4 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive12 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19140 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-193,571,726 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,516,066 have received their second dose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Jesus f**k. This could actively prevent folk getting vaccinated. I'd rather get a heavy dose of Novichok than watch that again.Do Americans actually like Corden? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 You got a link? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258741v1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258741v1 Cheers. Interestingly, it would appear the pandemic is soon to be thing of the past in Iceland as well: https://grapevine.is/news/2021/06/16/fully-vaccinated-icelanders-exceed-145000-restrictions-may-be-lifted-soon/ Is this shan little island of ours going to turn into an obsessive, pitiful North Korea-esque biosecurity state while the rest of the world couldn't give a f**k? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Jesus f**k. This could actively prevent folk getting vaccinated. He fucked off to America so he can be the annoying c**t he’s desperate to be, very annoying that he keeps appearing on the radar here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I'd rather get a heavy dose of Novichok than watch that again. Do Americans actually like Corden? His dad does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: 1,317 new cases of COVID-19 reported 30,990 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results 4.6% of these were positive 4 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive 12 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 140 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 3,571,726 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,516,066 have received their second dose Cases up by 188. Deaths up by 3 ICU down by 3 Hospital down by 7 Mixed day. Good news on hospitalisations/ICU. 4 deaths isn't great. Pay no heed to "cases". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, superbigal said: The EU threw a lot of orders at this failed punt. Shame this bit CureVac's U.S. traded shares fell 50.6% to $46.81 in after-hours trading following publication of the data. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/curevacs-covid-19-vaccine-misses-efficacy-goal-mass-trial-2021-06-16/ We've ordered 50m Curevac as well. Was supposed to be tweaked for new variants as part of a potential booster programme in the Autumn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Daily Cases Update: Overall about the same as yesterdays figures. Up another 2.86%. Worth focusing now on International travel as my ditty of the day. Scotland clear at the top of the European charts at 122.9, Spain in 2nd place at 72.8 If ever there was a case for allowing Europeans into the UK it would be now. Case rates in many countries below the "old" measure from last year of 20 per 100K (See below) and these countries are testing far more now. Scotland peaked at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1) Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9% Total Cases 7 days from 7th June to 14th June were 6528 now 6715 up 2.86%. Positivity was 4.1% now 4.1%. Cases per 100k were 119.5 now 122.9 Home Nations Daily update: UK Average 70.2 to 72.8 up 3.70%, England 69.9 to 72.7 up 4.01%, Wales 22.1 to 24.2 up 9.50%, Northern Ireland 33.4 to 35.0 up 4.79% Major countries in Europe. Spain 72.8 & Russia 58.3 are the only 2 countries above 55 cases per 100K. By contrast Poland 5.9, Czech 14.3, Germany 16.3, Italy 20.1 Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows. Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview LEVEL 2 RED Dundee City 318.8 to 318.1 Has it peaked ? South Ayrshire 250.4 to 253.1 City Of Edinburgh 200.8 to 207.5 Clackmannanshire 182.4 to 182.4 Midlothian 180.6 to 181.7 East Renfrewshire 156.0 to 171.7 Definitely kicking off here again. East Ayrshire 147.5 to 158.2 Glasgow City 158.7 to 153.2 East Lothian 155.9 to 159.7 LEVEL 1 East Dunbartonshire 141.8 to 154.6 Definitely kicking off here again. Perth & Kinross 151.4 to 154.0 LEVEL 1 West Dunbartonshire 133.8 to 137.2 LEVEL 1 Renfrewshire 136.2 to 136.8 North Ayrshire 137.3 to 135.1 North Lanarkshire 119.2 to 126.3 Angus 138.6 to 124.8 LEVEL 1 Definitely now dropping. West Lothian 116.9 to 124.5 LEVEL1 South Lanarkshire 100.8 to 98.0 Aberdeen City 83.5 to 94.9 LEVEL1 On the charge now up 33% in 2 days. Stirling 69.0 to 87.0 Resurgent up 26% OFFICIAL LEVEL 1 BLACK Argyll & Bute 48.9 to 72.2 Kicked off in Garelochhead up 48% Fife 64.2 to 68.8 Scottish Borders 66.7 to 68.4 Falkirk 41.6 to 53.5 Inverclyde 50.1 to 48.8 Dumfries & Galloway 39.6 to 41.0 Aberdeenshire 24.5 to 25.3 Highlands 11.0 to 14.4 Moray 10.4 to 10.4 OFFICIAL LEVEL 0 Teuchters in Green Western Isles 7.5 to 7.5 Shetland Islands 0.0 to 0.0 Orkney Islands 0.0 to 0.0 Edited June 17, 2021 by superbigal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Cases up by 188. Deaths up by 3 ICU down by 3 Hospital down by 7 Mixed day. Good news on hospitalisations/ICU. 4 deaths isn't great. Pay no heed to "cases". Shouldn't that be up by 7 for hospital numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Cases up by 188. Deaths up by 3 ICU down by 3 Hospital down by 7 Mixed day. Good news on hospitalisations/ICU. 4 deaths isn't great. Pay no heed to "cases". Hospital up by 7 Edited June 17, 2021 by Rugster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Shouldn't that be up by 7 for hospital numbers. Baws, yes - you are right. 133 to 140. Apologies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Rugster said: ICU up by 3 Hospital up by 7 I've had a long day. So it's bad news on all 4 measures. Bawbags. Sorry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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