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2 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

We must follow the science and the WHO.

There are two (obvious) issues with this line of thought.

Firstly, as has been clear for some time now, the science is absolute junk.

Secondly, even if you ignore the large caveat that the WHO are advising on a pandemic that spans countries in polar opposite positions due to vaccines / population immunity levels, not giving advice on a country by country basis, we are under no obligation to do what the WHO say. They are there to advise on a single health matter - it's for political leaders to do what they see fit with that advice as they juggle everything else running a country involves.

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I really don’t see what relevance care homes have here. The U.K. government are proposing to keep testing in hospitals and care homes, so no one will be testing positive and then visiting cafe homes as Yousaf claimed.
Seems like just another ‘reckless tories’ angle that he has jumped on.
Agree with this, there seems to be some conflict with what the likes of Humza are saying publicly and the information trickling down from the SG to local govt level.

As an example a couple of weeks ago when the WFH directive was lifted two of the LAs I work with immediately said that a negative LFT was required by all hybrid workers entering their premises. This was questioned on the grounds of sustainability given at that time the UKG had intimated an end to free testing by the end of March. The response (from an LA Chief Exec) was her understanding was that the SG were "stockpiling" supplies and had enough to sustain a new testing regime that would include hybrid workers testing freely until September ie 6 months. Now the UKG timescale has moved forward a month so taking the CE at face value free testing for hybrid workers should continue to at least August. Fast forward to Humza today and all the talk of funding and procurement models suggests either they don't have the stockpile or they do but intend to keep free testing for even longer than the 6 months previously initiated to LAs. Alternatively they might have a sizeable stash but as you say are simply looking to make an anti UKG statement.
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6 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Yep. When he talks about "following the science", what he's actually doing is abdicating responsibility for his decisions and hiding behind whichever scientist is saying what he wants to hear to allow the SNP to continue Boris Bashing.

There is no "science" as such. Credible scientists across the world are split on everything from masks to lockdowns. It's the nature of the beast. Scientists rarely agree on anything.

These restrictions are political decisions and he should be an adult and own them as his own.

That phrase really is a pet hate of mine. It’s as if there’s a book just sitting on a shelf full called ‘the science’ giving exact solutions.

In reality there’s no such thing as ‘the science’. Science covers a whole range of disciplines, and there is huge disagreement even within these about what the right answers are.

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https://news.stv.tv/scotland/uk-government-should-not-force-the-hand-of-devolved-nations-on-covid

The tone of this is interesting, actually.

You could read it like the SG know the game is up, are almost certain to follow England, but are laying the reckless toarrrrrries groundwork in case it goes tits up and they can deflect responsibility.

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2 hours ago, Clown Job said:

I fucking hate how c***s accuse you of essentially having blood on your hands for questioning the point of continuing to wear masks 

 

my life for 2 fuckin years mate! masks, lockdown, social distancing, closing schools, isolation, vax pass, jabs, ...

95% of the 95% who fell for the hysteria still wont admit they got it very badly wrong, take accountability for the self destruction and evil they supported

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48 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/uk-government-should-not-force-the-hand-of-devolved-nations-on-covid

The tone of this is interesting, actually.

You could read it like the SG know the game is up, are almost certain to follow England, but are laying the reckless toarrrrrries groundwork in case it goes tits up and they can deflect responsibility.

At the same time, they genuinely have the audacity to come out with this shit when it's Scotland that is clearly at odds with not just big, bad England, but the *entirety* of Northern Europe.

Fucking gormless losers.

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On 12/02/2022 at 16:53, oaksoft said:

 The BBC have a front page news item, about "escalating food prices" and they name pasta and tinned tomatoes. When you read on you realise that pasta has gone up by about 15p and tinned tomatoes 10p. The basics range for both products are unchanged and basic potatoes are lower in price but the headline is what grabs the attention. And they consider this garbage news worthy? Honestly there can't be many professions more useless than modern journalism.

That's foolish.

A basket of basic food items is used as a measure of inflation and has been for a long time.  It's perfectly legitimate to report on it.

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3 hours ago, oaksoft said:

And trying to get ordinary people to understand that underlined bit has been impossible.

Whenever someone like Carl Heneghan says something they people don't like, they trash him as a right wing nutter.

Yes, you're right in that there is no such thing as "the science".

The practice of choosing who to dismiss, however, is not confined to the left.  That is self evident on here.

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54 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:

That's foolish.

A basket of basic food items is used as a measure of inflation and has been for a long time.  It's perfectly legitimate to report on it.

It absolute is, but there needs to be some standardisation.

If not, it’s far too easy to say for example a loaf of bread costs £4, cause that’s how much the artisan baker charges at the farmers market. Of course while being true, this would be total bullshit in the real world.

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20 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said:

It absolute is, but there needs to be some standardisation.

If not, it’s far too easy to say for example a loaf of bread costs £4, cause that’s how much the artisan baker charges at the farmers market. Of course while being true, this would be total bullshit in the real world.

I think there is standardisation isn't there?

I don't think the BBC report in question was dealing with extreme examples like that, was it?

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On 12/02/2022 at 16:53, oaksoft said:

The BBC have a front page news item, about "escalating food prices" and they name pasta and tinned tomatoes. When you read on you realise that pasta has gone up by about 15p and tinned tomatoes 10p. The basics range for both products are unchanged and basic potatoes are lower in price but the headline is what grabs the attention. And they consider this garbage news worthy? Honestly there can't be many professions more useless than modern journalism.

This thread is worth a read. 

 

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