Ayr145 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, johnnydun said: What we should do is follow the Ayr United model and just roll over. Well you have to most teams you've played this season so far 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 No matter what happens, Dundee will be playing in the Championship next season. That's the main thing imo. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 If it isn't fair that clubs in a playoff place don't get anything then why is it fair that the teams in first get nothing for their efforts this season? When folk say they want 'reconstruction' what they mean is they want their club to also be promoted, despite the fact that a playoff place is no guarantee of that. There is no solution that is fair to every single team. Given the circumstances some teams will have to accept that, whatever the final outcome is. They can complain and proceed with legal action (and good luck suing the SPFL given they don't have any extra cash), but the game has to move on. This pandemic isn't fair. Tough luck, but we have to move on. And please stop going about sporting integrity. Scottish football doesn't have any and hasn't had any for decades. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ad Lib said: The correct answer is no. No Cove has not won its league. It has only won its league when it is mathematically impossible for another team to catch it. There are several ways it could become mathematically impossible for a team to be caught. Including the league season being cut short by a worldwide pandemic, and the rest of the league fixtures being cancelled due to the fact it prevents a mortal risk to all players, coaches and fans. But I suppose that doesnt fit the narrative you're trying to push that anything other than preventing Partick being relegated is correct. Edited April 10, 2020 by RandomGuy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I thought it was to be decided today but apparently 5pm is just a soft deadline for voting. "Within 28 days" is the actual deadline. Some clubs maybe take their time to see what other proposals come up over the next few weeks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, craigkillie said: If the league vote on it then whether or not you think it is fair is irrelevant, they have followed the regulations properly and the decision will be democratic and final. That much is trivially true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Including the league season being cut short by a worldwide pandemic, and the rest of the league fixtures being cancelled due to the fact it prevents a mortal risk to all players, coaches and fans. But I suppose that doesnt fit the narrative you're trying to push that anything other than preventing Partick being relegated is correct. That presupposes a rule change before it becomes mathematically impossible. And it is the rule change that is being criticised as unfair. You are therefore putting the cart before the horse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, charger29 said: I thought it was to be decided today but apparently 5pm is just a soft deadline for voting. "Within 28 days" is the actual deadline. Some clubs maybe take their time to see what other proposals come up over the next few weeks? Imagine asking anyone in any circumstance, to vote on a proposal that has yet to be made. Peak Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: That presupposes a rule change before it becomes mathematically impossible. And it is the rule change that is being criticised as unfair. You are therefore putting the cart before the horse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: That presupposes a rule change before it becomes mathematically impossible. And it is the rule change that is being criticised as unfair. You are therefore putting the cart before the horse. I'm saying its fairer on clubs, and players, in terms of contracts, to call a season complete, after 80% of its been played and its impossible to play the other 20%, than it is to just ignore the season entirely. Edited April 10, 2020 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, rb123! said: The thing is if you vote against it there has been no plan B proposal put forward which means that if it doesn't get voted through nobody knows what's going to happen now. Apart from even more weeks will be spent fannying about to then have another vote where the spfl will get their way. The SPFL will get there way as the always do you do realise that, if it doesn't pass today they'll just spend the next weeks blackmailing the likes of Hearts, Rangers, Dundee and Partick with threats about their financial futures if they don't vote yes I don’t think there necessarily would be more weeks fannying about. The SPFL don’t need a vote to end the league season early - the Board can do that. They only need a vote to cancel the play-offs. And, if they follow the Articles, only the Premiership clubs get to vote on that (eta the Premiership/Championship play-offs, which is what we’re concerned with here). And they are hardly likely to vote to keep them. If this isn’t voted through, I don't think there is anything to stop the Board from ending the league season on 13 March, or any other date they choose. Edited April 10, 2020 by Flash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kobe2010 said: you just want United to miss out for a laugh. What's wrong with that? Could do with a chuckle in these worrying times. Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I thought it was to be decided today but apparently 5pm is just a soft deadline for voting. "Within 28 days" is the actual deadline. Some clubs maybe take their time to see what other proposals come up over the next few weeks? If true then how very Scottish football. A deadline that isn’t a deadline. Brilliant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 If true then how very Scottish football. A deadline that isn’t a deadline. Brilliant.Was in the latest article on The Times website. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I thought it was to be decided today but apparently 5pm is just a soft deadline for voting. "Within 28 days" is the actual deadline. Some clubs maybe take their time to see what other proposals come up over the next few weeks? So what you’re saying is this debate on here could continue for another few weeks? Great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 They only need a vote to cancel the play-offs. And, if they follow the Articles, only the Premiership clubs get to vote on that (eta the Premiership/Championship play-offs, which is what we’re concerned with here).Some folk are concerned about the Championship/League 1 playoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: Some folk are concerned about the Championship/League 1 playoff. Aye, I meant in terms of the endless posts concerning Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 What if a team mathematically had won a league or were guaranteed to finish bottom? That would solve nothing unless you would advocate two leagues having an odd number. Say Cove had already mathematically won League 2. Folk are saying that this means they should go up, no argument. But they're also Stranraer, who are not mathematically guaranteed to finish bottom, should not just accept relegation. Is the suggestion then to seriously run with 11 in League 1 and 9 in League 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What if a team mathematically had won a league or were guaranteed to finish bottom? That would solve nothing unless you would advocate two leagues having an odd number. Say Cove had already mathematically won League 2. Folk are saying that this means they should go up, no argument. But they're also Stranraer, who are not mathematically guaranteed to finish bottom, should not just accept relegation. Is the suggestion then to seriously run with 11 in League 1 and 9 in League 2? But no team has, so it's irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, rb123! said: 1 hour ago, Dele said: Quote where he said this, please. The Courier article says your decision is based on the feeling you'd get promoted through the play offs So he never said that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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