Munoz Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Aye, but voiding the season and this pish are not the only two options. There is no justification for league reconstruction. None, zero, nada. Ann Budge should have been told to fùck off rather than pandered to. I couldn't care less about Hearts, for me it's all about the other teams that have lost out this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Plates of mince and tatties thrown against the wall up and down the length of P&B when it's announced we'll be stinking out the Premiership for another season eh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: It’s pish. Ann Budge inspired pish. Although assuming that we're now talking about a permanent reconstruction it's some way away from Budge's suggestion and is actually closer to the Hamilton position 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I think what Nelms suggested in his interview might happen will indeed be the case - if there is reconstruction, it will be done in stages and won't start until 21/22 or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Would they been having splits in the bottom league or is it just 30 games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, razamanaz said: 14-14-16 - I can't imagine the third tier voting for games at Peterhead, Elgin, Cove and Brora - not when teams are skint! Only way I can see it going through is if it's permanent as being team 44 is easier to avoid than team 42 and slightly better prize money percentages are shifted in their direction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Munoz said: 14-14-16 isn't the worst proposal I've heard. As long as Hearts are relegated. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) I would hope that my club, and several others, will vote against any temporary nonsense. That said I think that ship has sailed and it's now more permanent and the argument is over the number of teams in the structure. I am wary of reconstruction being forced through because of the "pram emptied, toys everywhere" approach of some clubs, but I am still favour a bigger league and it's unlikely to happen any other way. The more I think of the 14/14/14(16) options, though, the more I think that the lowest of those should in some way be regionalised (and presumably expanded to suit). Considering clubs will be taking a hammering financially I can't see Stranraer vs Peterhead, for example, being viable now - and you could argue it wasn't before. Edited May 5, 2020 by Ric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Coventry Saint said: There's an outstanding third option, to be fair, so it's hardly the straight shootout that Kheredine's putting forward there. You mean let's just try to play the remaining fixtures in the autumn? tbf if any team has arranged nearly all their contracts to expire at once, then hell mend them, eh? (And in the meantime SPFL can just hold on to that outstanding £7m - because it's too difficult to advance/loan). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Pet Jeden said: You mean let's just try to play the remaining fixtures in the autumn? tbf if any team has arranged nearly all their contracts to expire at once, then hell mend them, eh? I'm surprised there are any straws left considering how hard you've been clinging onto them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said: You mean let's just try to play the remaining fixtures in the autumn? tbf if any team has arranged nearly all their contracts to expire at once, then hell mend them, eh? (And in the meantime SPFL can just hold on to that outstanding £7m - because it's too difficult to advance/loan). No... The 'call the leagues now' option. Avoids the contracts issue very neatly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Zing. said: 14-14-16 or 14-14-14. Am i being dim or should the preferred option not be the same one as the one with the most chance of getting most votes, by definition? It would be more illuminating to know who it's preferred by. My preferred option : 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 So is this right? 26 games before the split, not like current set up which is 33. Based on this season, the split would be 3 weeks after the winter break (mid Feb) And there would then be 14 games in the split instead of the current 5. Imagine being safely in 7th spot, you basically have 14 meaningless games - i.e one third of the fixtures being effectively pointless. What is the point???? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I used to be in favour of a 14 team league as a less preferable option but I've completely changed my mind now - get that idea in the bin. You do it properly and make a 16 team league or don't bother at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Green Day said: So is this right? 26 games before the split, not like current set up which is 33. Based on this season, the split would be 3 weeks after the winter break (mid Feb) And there would then be 14 games in the split instead of the current 5. Imagine being safely in 7th spot, you basically have 14 meaningless games - i.e one third of the fixtures being effectively pointless. What is the point???? Yeah, this is why a 14 team league is always going to be worse than 12. Any split will come far too early and it's unworkable without one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Jeden Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ric said: I'm surprised there are any straws left considering how hard you've been clinging onto them. No straws. No clutching. No danger of reconstruction. Needed an injured party being prepared to pursue SPFL (and individuals) through the courts until 2021. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Yeah, this is why a 14 team league is always going to be worse than 12. Any split will come far too early and it's unworkable without one. A: You give the team that finishes 8th (in a proper split) or 7th (in a shan, lopsided split) a first round play-off spot for European qualification in the top flight or promotion from the second and third tiers. Best of the bottom half plays (for example) 4th or 5th in the first round, with better placed teams entering at the following stage. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Yeah, this is why a 14 team league is always going to be worse than 12. Any split will come far too early and it's unworkable without one. Correct, could do x3 but that’s horrible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Green Day said: So is this right? 26 games before the split, not like current set up which is 33. Based on this season, the split would be 3 weeks after the winter break (mid Feb) And there would then be 14 games in the split instead of the current 5. Imagine being safely in 7th spot, you basically have 14 meaningless games - i.e one third of the fixtures being effectively pointless. What is the point???? The point is Hearts are bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, virginton said: A: You give the team that finishes 8th (in a proper split) or 7th (in a shan, lopsided split) a first round play-off spot for European qualification in the top flight or promotion from the second and third tiers. Best of the bottom half plays (for example) 4th or 5th in the first round, with better placed teams entering at the following stage. A team finishing 7th or 8th out of 14 should not be getting a shot at a promotion playoff. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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