Gordon EF Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Have we reached 'people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? Or are we still at 'people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 20/07/2020 at 09:40, coprolite said: "qualified historian" Well, yes. Have you got a problem wrapping your head around that fact? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Have we reached 'people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? Or are we still at 'people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? We got side tracked with a discussion about whether it's OK to defend people's right to defend people's right to defend people's right to deny the holocaust Personally I'm not one of those people that defend people's right to defend people's right to defend people's right to deny the holocaust But I do defend their right to do so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 We got side tracked with a discussion about whether it's OK to defend people's right to defend people's right to defend people's right to deny the holocaust Personally I'm not one of those people that defend people's right to defend people's right to defend people's right to deny the holocaust But I do defend their right to do soI'll defend your right to post this topcat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Personally I'm not one of those people that defend people's right to defend people's right to defend people's right to deny the holocaust You're a disgraceful bigot IMO. And I'm sure that my saying so has just saved lives. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, Gordon EF said: You're a disgraceful bigot IMO. And I'm sure that my saying so has just saved lives. You're the better man Well done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Have we reached 'people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? Or are we still at 'people complaining about people complaining about something someone said'? It's almost like they're all as bad as each other 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: It's almost like they're all as bad as each other 100 idiots can all have differing levels of idiocy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, Gordon EF said: 100 idiots can all have differing levels of idiocy. That doesn't sound like a way to foster inclusive debate to me chum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: 100 idiots can all have differing levels of idiocy. But they're still idiots 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, virginton said: Well, yes. Have you got a problem wrapping your head around that fact? Not at all. The intellectual rigour behind an Ainsley Harriott meme was all it took to convince me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said: That doesn't sound like a way to foster inclusive debate to me chum! It's a fair point. But then again, I'm one of the idiots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, coprolite said: Not at all. The intellectual rigour behind an Ainsley Harriott meme was all it took to convince me. Who can forget the way that A.J.P Taylor summarised the underlying problems with the Versailles treaty using a cartoon of Fanny Cradock Edited July 22, 2020 by topcat(The most tip top) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Who can forget the way that A.J.P Taylor summarised the underlying problems with the Versailles treaty using a cartoon of Fanny Cradock If it had been a cartoon of Cradock's fanny it wouldn't have got published. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Who can forget the way that A.J.P Taylor summarised the underlying problems with the Versailles treaty using a cartoon of Fanny Cradock To be fair, I feel like Lincoln sending General Lee that gif of the naked black guy pumping KFC into Ainsley Harriet's grinning mouth would have been appropriate, proportional and hilarious at the conclusion of the American Civil War. Edited July 22, 2020 by Gordon EF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMDP Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) Catching up on the last twenty pages of this, some interesting stuff. I'm a big fan of cancel culture tbh, it's should become like the Peep Show episode where everyone is trying to get each other sectioned. It is fairly obvious that most signatories to the original letter are finding it difficult when their opinions are called out and ridiculed. It's an absolute right to do this - I'm presuming the centrist "good faith" advocates believe we should always be engaging in good faith with the likes of Rowling, Toby Young, Julia Hartley-Brewer, Mike Graham, Tom Harwood, Andrew Neil and Darren Grimes now instead of them rightly being called out? Also good to see that VT has basically become the Owen Jones of the forum - makes a clear, salient point only for the creepy da's of the forum to all wade in and get personal. Mad that him being a qualified historian has got so many in a froth. Edited July 22, 2020 by JMDP 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, JMDP said: Catching up on the last twenty pages of this, some interesting stuff. I'm a big fan of cancel culture tbh, it's should become like the Peep Show episode where everyone is trying to get each other sectioned. It is fairly obvious that most signatories to the original letter are finding it difficult when their opinions are called out and ridiculed. It's an absolute right to do this - I'm presuming the centrist "good faith" advocates believe we should always be engaging in good faith with the likes of Rowling, Toby Young, Julia Hartley-Brewer, Mike Graham, Tom Harwood, Andrew Neil and Darren Grimes now instead of them rightly being called out? Also good to see that VT has basically become the Owen Jones of the forum - makes a clear, salient point only for the creepy da's of the forum to all wade in and get personal. Mad that him being a qualified historian has got so many in a froth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Actually, I'm a qualified historian too. You see a rusty tin can that's on some waste ground which is half positioned in some canine excrement and has some snails domiciled there? That's VT's house that is. He lives in that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Is there such a thing as an unqualified historian? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dee Man said: Is there such a thing as an unqualified historian? All the rest of us, presumably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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