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2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

You “find it very strange” that religious nut jobs just make things up to suit their oppressive agenda?  Really?

I find it strange that they believe its a credible view point, i find it strange that it isnt subject to more criticism and ridicule, I find it strange that people tend to accept their positions. 

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10 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I find it strange that they believe its a credible view point, i find it strange that it isnt subject to more criticism and ridicule, I find it strange that people tend to accept their positions. 

The only people who will criticise and ridicule it are those of us outwith the influence of religious organisations.  Much of the brainwashing that goes on in religion centres on not challenging the teachings.

Of course it’s much worse in some religions, that’s why you can’t have an open discussion with a Jehovah’s Witness or a Muslim about their religion.  Probably some Catholics too, though less so than in years gone by.

 

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58 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yep, the concepts of transgenderism, gender questioning, homosexuality, bisexuality etc all predate the abrahamic religions which are so vehemently opposed to them. I find it very strange that people can just claim that ‘god thinks this’ or ‘jesus would be sad at the thought of a person changing gender’ when actually if you ever really look at writings about Jesus he was essentially a big hippie socialist guy to put a modern label on it. There’s also a very interesting school of thought which suggests Jesus was partial to spending the night with Paul and that they were lovers. How people can take the sorta consensus held through most theologic academia about Jesus and try and suggest that he would defend their ultra conservative dogma or embody this really hate filled position they take on life suggests to me they havent got the grasp on their religion in the way they should. It’s almost like they are using their ‘faith’ and twisting it to suit a very narrow agenda which has no basis in historical context or logic. 

This also applies to people whose faith is in a rudimentary, partial understanding of science. 

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4 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yep, the concepts of transgenderism, gender questioning, homosexuality, bisexuality etc all predate the abrahamic religions which are so vehemently opposed to them. I find it very strange that people can just claim that ‘god thinks this’ or ‘jesus would be sad at the thought of a person changing gender’ when actually if you ever really look at writings about Jesus he was essentially a big hippie socialist guy to put a modern label on it. There’s also a very interesting school of thought which suggests Jesus was partial to spending the night with Paul and that they were lovers. How people can take the sorta consensus held through most theologic academia about Jesus and try and suggest that he would defend their ultra conservative dogma or embody this really hate filled position they take on life suggests to me they havent got the grasp on their religion in the way they should. It’s almost like they are using their ‘faith’ and twisting it to suit a very narrow agenda which has no basis in historical context or logic. 

That unnecessary and frankly silly sentence there lost you credibility, pal 

True faith will never be based on hate but there are points of view which can be upheld without voicing them, especially when it will cause argument or conflict. 

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31 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:

That unnecessary and frankly silly sentence there lost you credibility, pal 

True faith will never be based on hate but there are points of view which can be upheld without voicing them, especially when it will cause argument or conflict. 

Certainly sounds more likely than Jesus being a big fan of semi-automatic weapons, which is espoused from the rooftops by millions of folks in America. 

True faith is often based on hate. The Westboro Baptist Church are "arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America", per the Southern Poverty Law Center, but they're not usually accused of being insincere. 

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