Sergeant Wilson Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: The word “could” in the headline is doing a lot of heavy lifting as is “depends” in your response this is after all based on a study commissioned by a firm whose business is built on helping builders push back against planning restrictions that said if Edinburgh decides it can’t expand out or up then ultimately something has to give Edinburgh extends to Blackridge as it is. You can annex Plains and Caldercruix, but that's my red line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Edinburgh extends to Blackridge as it is. You can annex Plains and Caldercruix, but that's my red line. Do they do salt and sauce in Blackridge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I see the SNP have pledged to rebuild the line between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Guess it pays to be a marginal constituency just like it did with the Borders rail link: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/msp-secures-snp-commitment-to-north-east-rail-3888673 Peterhead appears to be included as well. Aberdeenshire council has always protected the old alignments for the Buchan line so this is easier to do than most reinstatements would be. Not sure the Peterhead angle would ever happen given the detour to Maud that's involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Guess it pays to be a marginal constituency just like it did with the Borders rail link: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/msp-secures-snp-commitment-to-north-east-rail-3888673 Peterhead appears to be included as well. Aberdeenshire council has always protected the old alignments for the Buchan line so this is easier to do than most reinstatements would be. Not sure the Peterhead angle would ever happen given the detour to Maud that's involved. There was a lot of girning about the re-opening of the Borders line from non-SNP parties "It'll never work, no-one will use it, there's a good bus service, we have the A7 etc" It's been a great success Re-opening the North East line is a great idea but what do Aberdeenshire Tories have to say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Guess it pays to be a marginal constituency just like it did with the Borders rail link: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/msp-secures-snp-commitment-to-north-east-rail-3888673 Peterhead appears to be included as well. Aberdeenshire council has always protected the old alignments for the Buchan line so this is easier to do than most reinstatements would be. Not sure the Peterhead angle would ever happen given the detour to Maud that's involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, tamthebam said: There was a lot of girning about the re-opening of the Borders line from non-SNP parties "It'll never work, no-one will use it, there's a good bus service, we have the A7 etc" It's been a great success Re-opening the North East line is a great idea but what do Aberdeenshire Tories have to say? The Borders railway was mainly a Lib Dem hobbyhorse AFAIR more than an SNP one but the SNP hoped to eclipse them in the Borders so went along with it. Think Labour didn't want it to run past Gorebridge given there are few Labour voters past there and the Tories were the main opponents. The SNP will be hoping the Tories are opposed to give them a local issue to champion but it's reasonable to question why Alex Salmond didn't try to get this done when he was first minister. Edited October 23, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 The plan to build the Borders started as the Waverley Railway project in 2005/2006 but it was cut back a lot in 2011. By cutting back on the amount of double line anh building new bridges is single track size only 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Toon Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I see the SNP have pledged to rebuild the line between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh.Won’t happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Guess it pays to be a marginal constituency just like it did with the Borders rail link: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/msp-secures-snp-commitment-to-north-east-rail-3888673 Peterhead appears to be included as well. Aberdeenshire council has always protected the old alignments for the Buchan line so this is easier to do than most reinstatements would be. Not sure the Peterhead angle would ever happen given the detour to Maud that's involved. All the stories about it I could find all seemed to refer to the line as to "Peterhead and Fraserburgh." I hadn't realised this would be two lines - thought it'd be one up to Peterhead and then following the coast to Fraserburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 19 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Guess it pays to be a marginal constituency just like it did with the Borders rail link: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/msp-secures-snp-commitment-to-north-east-rail-3888673 Peterhead appears to be included as well. Aberdeenshire council has always protected the old alignments for the Buchan line so this is easier to do than most reinstatements would be. Not sure the Peterhead angle would ever happen given the detour to Maud that's involved. There are multiple proposals on the table including using the old routes whereby you could get to Peterhead from Ellon. https://www.campaignfornortheastrail.org/proposals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 19 hours ago, Highland Capital said: I see the SNP have pledged to rebuild the line between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. It was a bit of a shambles that Europes biggest fish market didn't have a freight option beyond lorry loads. Also with the renewable potential in the region moving people and stuff about should be much easier if the whole area is going to benefit from economic growth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, strichener said: There are multiple proposals on the table including using the old routes whereby you could get to Peterhead from Ellon. https://www.campaignfornortheastrail.org/proposals Sure but how realistic is that? A significant portion of that old alignment has been built over in both Ellon and Peterhead and wasn't it narrow gauge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Sure but how realistic is that? A significant portion of that old alignment has been built over in both Ellon and Peterhead and wasn't it narrow gauge? I'm not sure on the gauge as I'm not old enough to remember what the lines were like. However, I would guess that the railway would just reach the current outskirts of Peterhead. There is still the option to take the line into the town from the old line to Mintlaw and the area where the main station used to be is still accessible, it isn't outrageous but I would be totally shocked if they took a line further north than Ellon. They didn't when dualling North which basically moved the bottle neck to Ellon rather than Balmeddie but god forbid that the SG invest in infrastructure in the North East further than the Aberdeen commuter belt.. Edited October 24, 2022 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Railway station footfall numbers revealed. I suppose when you think about it must make sense but it surprised me initially to read that Partick station has more passengers than both Aberdeen and Haymarket.. https://www.insider.co.uk/news/busiest-quietest-train-stations-scotland-28574520?utm_source=business_insider_newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter2&utm_medium=email 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, alta-pete said: Railway station footfall numbers revealed. I suppose when you think about it must make sense but it surprised me initially to read that Partick station has more passengers than both Aberdeen and Haymarket.. https://www.insider.co.uk/news/busiest-quietest-train-stations-scotland-28574520?utm_source=business_insider_newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter2&utm_medium=email The numbers are "passenger entries, exits and interchanges" It's probably the interchanges that clinch the top 5 spot for Partick Fewer people with be changing at Haymarket or Aberdeen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, alta-pete said: Railway station footfall numbers revealed. Really need to do a bit of analysis to provide context as the numbers on their own don't tell you much apart from being much lower than before. For example, I looked at the 5 year pre-Covid average of some stations near me and compared them to the two Covid years - a couple of the main stations were down at 20% while others presumably not as reliant on commuters did much better at 35-40% (Leuchars was the best in Fife by this metric). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 It wasn't the long term averages that I even saw, just the ranking of the stations that initially surprised me. But then Glasgow is a city with a fairly dense suburban rail network and Partick also has the Undergound to take you around. Edinburgh and Aberdeen only really offer you the option of getting to the end of the line, getting off and onto a bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, alta-pete said: It wasn't the long term averages that I even saw, just the ranking of the stations that initially surprised me. But then Glasgow is a city with a fairly dense suburban rail network and Partick also has the Undergound to take you around. Edinburgh and Aberdeen only really offer you the option of getting to the end of the line, getting off and onto a bus. Haymarket was slightly busier Pre-Covid but there's not a great deal in it 2012-20 Haymarket: 2,980,386, Partick: 2,935,104 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Surprised Falkirk fans haven't appeared in this discussion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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